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If we're going to be judging news outlets by the worst opinion piece they've ever published, then let's be consistent: most if not all American newspapers have

by pkinsky 11y ago

If we're going to be judging news outlets by the worst opinion piece they've ever published, then let's be consistent: most if not all American newspapers have published torture apologia. Would you condemn someone published on Huffington Post for sharing a banner with "In Defense of Torture"[1]? If not, why? [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/in-defense-of-torture_b_8993.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/in-defense-of-tortu...

jarcane 11y ago
The founder of Reaxxion, in his own words: "While walking to my place, I realized how drunk she was. In America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she legally couldn’t give her consent. It didn’t help matters that I was relatively sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated. I won’t rationalize my actions, but having sex is what I do." [1] "How far lost is Western society if fat, ugly Indian cunt @nitashatiku has a platform to denounce a productive, intelligent white man?" [2] "A race to degeneracy hurts Jews less than gentiles because they still retain guiding ingroup values. Gentiles are left in the cultural winds that Jews help create." [3] "Hundreds of years ago, I would have been a soldier, fighting battles to defend my country against invaders, or invading another tribe to steal their women and land." [4] "A woman cutting off healthy hair is one step away from literal cutting of her skin with a sharp object, because both behaviors denote a likely mental illness where the woman presents herself to society as more damaged than her genetic condition would indicate, suggesting that she has suffered environmental damage that has reduced her overall fitness. ... She must be monitored by state authorities so she doesn’t continue to hurt herself." [5] "If you’re about to bust your nut and a girl does tells you “No” or “Wait,” she’s an inconsiderate slut who is now causing you direct harm. A man’s nut is sacred, and for her to impede that should be criminal. I’m serious." [6] "If she tells you to stop the millisecond after she gets her nut, without you getting yours, I want you to tell her that the point of having sex with women is so a man doesn’t have to use his hand, and that she has performed below the hand." [6] "That’s why we do all this shit to bang women—to get our nut. If she can’t do that for us, then she’s useless as a living being." [6] "make rape legal if done on private property. I propose that we make the violent taking of a woman not punishable by law when done off public grounds." [7] [1] http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/11/12/rooshs-reaxxion-douchebag-non-gamer-starts-gaming-website-for-douchebags/ http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/11/12/rooshs-reaxxion-dou... [2] https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/377363307788656640 https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/377363307788656640 [3] http://www.donotlink.com/framed?699413 http://www.donotlink.com/framed?699413 [4] http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/04/28/roosh-v-seduced-and-abandoned-by-the-dr-oz-show/#more-16246 http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/04/28/roosh-v-seduced-and... [5] http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/04/15/pickup-guru-roosh-v-women-who-cut-their-hair-short-are-committing-self-harm-and-should-be-monitored-by-authorities/#more-16106 http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/04/15/pickup-guru-roosh-v... [6] http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/03/21/a-mans-nut-is-sacred-pickup-douchebag-roosh-v-declares-and-it-gets-worse-from-there/#more-15726 http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/03/21/a-mans-nut-is-sacre... [7] http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/02/17/pickup-guru-roosh-v-end-rape-by-making-it-legal/ http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/02/17/pickup-guru-roosh-v...
- pkinsky 11y ago
  Thanks for the response, but I'm not sure how this is relevant: yes, this guy is a bad person. You have produced quotes in which he advocates doing evil things. Surely you can agree that, say, defending CIA torture programs is also a bad thing. Given this, would you condone sharing a banner with torture apologia? Do you denounce authors that are published by HuffPo? I would really appreciate an answer to this question.
  - dhagz 11y ago
    I think what he's saying is that the founder(s) of HuffPo aren't torture apologist(s), so your comparison doesn't really carry weight. It's like publishing a paper analyzing the way humans react to exposure to rapidly changing temperature on a site that publishes content that is exclusively torture apologia as opposed to a psychiatric journal. One has integrity, the other doesn't.
BryantD 11y ago
I think that's an accidental red herring. Let's try judging this news outlet by their policy, instead: "Reaxxion is a gaming site for men that was created as a reaction to extremists infiltrating and corrupting video game journalism. It aims to be a community of men who want to discuss gaming without being fed propaganda or labeled sexist because of their interest in specific kinds of gaming entertainment." I would assume that women are allowed to read the articles, but it doesn't sound like women are encouraged to comment on them. Personally, I have zero time for that kind of crap. Hm... On reflection, I also think there's a relevant difference between judging a news outlet by the worst opinion piece they've ever published and judging a news outlet by the average opinion piece they publish. The latter action is also useful for gauging the quality of the site's policy.
- pkinsky 11y ago
  >On reflection, I also think there's a relevant difference between judging a news outlet by the worst opinion piece they've ever published and judging a news outlet by the average opinion piece they publish. The latter action is also useful for gauging the quality of the site's policy. Good point, assuming the median article on Reaxxion is awful, not just a few outliers. (This assumption is likely true, IMHO)
  - BryantD 11y ago
    Thanks! I really wish this piece had been published somewhere else; while the author comes with his own baggage there'd have been a better chance of real discussion that way. C'est la vie, and thanks again for listening.

by pkinsky 11y ago

jarcane 11y ago

The founder of Reaxxion, in his own words: "While walking to my place, I realized how drunk she was. In America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she legally couldn’t give her consent. It didn’t help matters that I was relatively sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated. I won’t rationalize my actions, but having sex is what I do." [1] "How far lost is Western society if fat, ugly Indian cunt @nitashatiku has a platform to denounce a productive, intelligent white man?" [2] "A race to degeneracy hurts Jews less than gentiles because they still retain guiding ingroup values. Gentiles are left in the cultural winds that Jews help create." [3] "Hundreds of years ago, I would have been a soldier, fighting battles to defend my country against invaders, or invading another tribe to steal their women and land." [4] "A woman cutting off healthy hair is one step away from literal cutting of her skin with a sharp object, because both behaviors denote a likely mental illness where the woman presents herself to society as more damaged than her genetic condition would indicate, suggesting that she has suffered environmental damage that has reduced her overall fitness. ... She must be monitored by state authorities so she doesn’t continue to hurt herself." [5] "If you’re about to bust your nut and a girl does tells you “No” or “Wait,” she’s an inconsiderate slut who is now causing you direct harm. A man’s nut is sacred, and for her to impede that should be criminal. I’m serious." [6] "If she tells you to stop the millisecond after she gets her nut, without you getting yours, I want you to tell her that the point of having sex with women is so a man doesn’t have to use his hand, and that she has performed below the hand." [6] "That’s why we do all this shit to bang women—to get our nut. If she can’t do that for us, then she’s useless as a living being." [6] "make rape legal if done on private property. I propose that we make the violent taking of a woman not punishable by law when done off public grounds." [7] [1] http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/11/12/rooshs-reaxxion-douchebag-non-gamer-starts-gaming-website-for-douchebags/ http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/11/12/rooshs-reaxxion-dou... [2] https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/377363307788656640 https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/377363307788656640 [3] http://www.donotlink.com/framed?699413 http://www.donotlink.com/framed?699413 [4] http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/04/28/roosh-v-seduced-and-abandoned-by-the-dr-oz-show/#more-16246 http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/04/28/roosh-v-seduced-and... [5] http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/04/15/pickup-guru-roosh-v-women-who-cut-their-hair-short-are-committing-self-harm-and-should-be-monitored-by-authorities/#more-16106 http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/04/15/pickup-guru-roosh-v... [6] http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/03/21/a-mans-nut-is-sacred-pickup-douchebag-roosh-v-declares-and-it-gets-worse-from-there/#more-15726 http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/03/21/a-mans-nut-is-sacre... [7] http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/02/17/pickup-guru-roosh-v-end-rape-by-making-it-legal/ http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/02/17/pickup-guru-roosh-v...

pkinsky 11y ago
Thanks for the response, but I'm not sure how this is relevant: yes, this guy is a bad person. You have produced quotes in which he advocates doing evil things. Surely you can agree that, say, defending CIA torture programs is also a bad thing. Given this, would you condone sharing a banner with torture apologia? Do you denounce authors that are published by HuffPo? I would really appreciate an answer to this question.
- dhagz 11y ago
  I think what he's saying is that the founder(s) of HuffPo aren't torture apologist(s), so your comparison doesn't really carry weight. It's like publishing a paper analyzing the way humans react to exposure to rapidly changing temperature on a site that publishes content that is exclusively torture apologia as opposed to a psychiatric journal. One has integrity, the other doesn't.

BryantD 11y ago

I think that's an accidental red herring. Let's try judging this news outlet by their policy, instead: "Reaxxion is a gaming site for men that was created as a reaction to extremists infiltrating and corrupting video game journalism. It aims to be a community of men who want to discuss gaming without being fed propaganda or labeled sexist because of their interest in specific kinds of gaming entertainment." I would assume that women are allowed to read the articles, but it doesn't sound like women are encouraged to comment on them. Personally, I have zero time for that kind of crap. Hm... On reflection, I also think there's a relevant difference between judging a news outlet by the worst opinion piece they've ever published and judging a news outlet by the average opinion piece they publish. The latter action is also useful for gauging the quality of the site's policy.

pkinsky 11y ago
>On reflection, I also think there's a relevant difference between judging a news outlet by the worst opinion piece they've ever published and judging a news outlet by the average opinion piece they publish. The latter action is also useful for gauging the quality of the site's policy. Good point, assuming the median article on Reaxxion is awful, not just a few outliers. (This assumption is likely true, IMHO)
- BryantD 11y ago
  Thanks! I really wish this piece had been published somewhere else; while the author comes with his own baggage there'd have been a better chance of real discussion that way. C'est la vie, and thanks again for listening.