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Both you and that girl are ass holes for betraying your friend. The moral thing to do is for both of you to give up your stakes in the startup. Let him find be

Both you and that girl are ass holes for betraying your friend. The moral thing to do is for both of you to give up your stakes in the startup. Let him find better partners. You guys obviously don't deserve to be on the team. In the end, you and the girl will have each other, and he will be single, but in full control of the startup. It's more than fair, given the fact that your friend didn't do anything, and you two betrayed his trust.

nicholas73 11y ago
Or everyone can act like adults? Feelings are natural, and nothing has happened (or has it?).
- crimsonalucard 11y ago
  Adults are just kids with money.
  - brudgers 11y ago
    Not after they have kids.
    - marcofiset 11y ago
      Then they are just kids with kids.
      - thoman23 11y ago
        No, some of us do grow up. We learn integrity and responsibility. We develop greater perspective. We grow more comfortable with ourselves and with the choices we make. Parents (a.k.a. grown-ups) should not just be larger/heavier/grayer kids.
        marcofiset 11y ago
        I was just trying to be funny.
mmxiii 11y ago
This is a nonsensical comment. With the information we are given, there's hardly any basis to conclude anything about: 1. Who is betraying who 2. Who should take ownership of the startup in case of a breakup The OP is asking for any relevant experience and advice, not for someone to irrationally moralize.
- crimsonalucard 11y ago
  This is a nonsensical response ignoring the intrinsic relationship between morality and the information given. Since the situation is intrinsically related to morality. My advice is therefore also related to morality. Just because the OP doesn't specifically ask for a moral answer doesn't preclude me addressing morality. Betrayal and ownership are subjective in this context. However, there is still a majority consensus that can be arrived at based on the information given. Many will come to a single conclusion on who is the betrayer and who morally deserves ownership. When a person thoughtlessly steals his best friends girlfriend, what do you think the majority consensus will be?
  - mmxiii 11y ago
    There are a few things getting conflated here. 1. What the OP should do. 2. What the majority consensus is 3. How you subjectively feel about the majority consensus. 4. How the OP subjectively feels about the majority consensus. In this case, there was not sufficient information given to really understand what the majority consensus is. Additionally, just because something is the consensus, doesn't mean it is necessarily the best course of action individually. Facing condemnation is a consequence, not physical law. The initial response took no time to give an appropriate course of action, and drew on your subjective heated feelings attached to your interpretation of the consensus.
    - crimsonalucard 11y ago
      >In this case, there was not sufficient information given to really understand what the majority consensus is. Additionally, just because something is the consensus, doesn't mean it is necessarily the best course of action individually. Facing condemnation is a consequence, not physical law. The initial response took no time to give an appropriate course of action, and drew on your subjective heated feelings attached to your interpretation of the consensus. There is no need to do a scientific analysis to derive majority consensus. Intuition is enough to know what the majority thinks about stealing your best friends girlfriend. Whether or not the majority consensus is the "best" course of action for the individual is not what I addressed. I specifically stated that my advice was from a moral standpoint, whether or not the OP considers that as "best" depends on whether or not he is a moral man. The initial response gave a appropriate course of action from a moral standpoint. It drew from a combination of sources all of which can be potentially described as subjective, moral, rational, emotional, heated yet still valid.

nicholas73 11y ago

Or everyone can act like adults? Feelings are natural, and nothing has happened (or has it?).

crimsonalucard 11y ago
Adults are just kids with money.
- brudgers 11y ago
  Not after they have kids.
  - marcofiset 11y ago
    Then they are just kids with kids.
    - thoman23 11y ago
      No, some of us do grow up. We learn integrity and responsibility. We develop greater perspective. We grow more comfortable with ourselves and with the choices we make. Parents (a.k.a. grown-ups) should not just be larger/heavier/grayer kids.
      - marcofiset 11y ago
        I was just trying to be funny.

mmxiii 11y ago

This is a nonsensical comment. With the information we are given, there's hardly any basis to conclude anything about: 1. Who is betraying who 2. Who should take ownership of the startup in case of a breakup The OP is asking for any relevant experience and advice, not for someone to irrationally moralize.

crimsonalucard 11y ago
This is a nonsensical response ignoring the intrinsic relationship between morality and the information given. Since the situation is intrinsically related to morality. My advice is therefore also related to morality. Just because the OP doesn't specifically ask for a moral answer doesn't preclude me addressing morality. Betrayal and ownership are subjective in this context. However, there is still a majority consensus that can be arrived at based on the information given. Many will come to a single conclusion on who is the betrayer and who morally deserves ownership. When a person thoughtlessly steals his best friends girlfriend, what do you think the majority consensus will be?
- mmxiii 11y ago
  There are a few things getting conflated here. 1. What the OP should do. 2. What the majority consensus is 3. How you subjectively feel about the majority consensus. 4. How the OP subjectively feels about the majority consensus. In this case, there was not sufficient information given to really understand what the majority consensus is. Additionally, just because something is the consensus, doesn't mean it is necessarily the best course of action individually. Facing condemnation is a consequence, not physical law. The initial response took no time to give an appropriate course of action, and drew on your subjective heated feelings attached to your interpretation of the consensus.
  - crimsonalucard 11y ago
    >In this case, there was not sufficient information given to really understand what the majority consensus is. Additionally, just because something is the consensus, doesn't mean it is necessarily the best course of action individually. Facing condemnation is a consequence, not physical law. The initial response took no time to give an appropriate course of action, and drew on your subjective heated feelings attached to your interpretation of the consensus. There is no need to do a scientific analysis to derive majority consensus. Intuition is enough to know what the majority thinks about stealing your best friends girlfriend. Whether or not the majority consensus is the "best" course of action for the individual is not what I addressed. I specifically stated that my advice was from a moral standpoint, whether or not the OP considers that as "best" depends on whether or not he is a moral man. The initial response gave a appropriate course of action from a moral standpoint. It drew from a combination of sources all of which can be potentially described as subjective, moral, rational, emotional, heated yet still valid.