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Show HN: “Who is hiring?” Map

546 points by xando 11y ago

meritt 11y ago
This is pretty cool. I'd advise not changing the URL with every map movement and instead let the user generate a linkable URL upon demand. This created quite the enormous history list after only using a few minutes.
- xando 11y ago
  To be honest this didn't cross my mind. But true, I should do something about it.
  - bhousel 11y ago
    You can keep your urls sharable and avoid breaking the back button by storing the map state in the url hash. something like: `location.hash = '#map/' + mapLat + '/' + mapLng + '/'+ mapZoom;` Here's an example of one I made for a client recently. http://www.btforasthma.com/find-a-clinic?ctry=US&state=NY&loc=10001#map/40.78079/-73.97894/40.72332/-73.94897/10 http://www.btforasthma.com/find-a-clinic?ctry=US&state=NY&lo... Incidentally, if anyone is looking to hire a consultant with mapping experience, hit me up.
    - evan_ 11y ago
      That still creates a history state, so if you make 10 map moves, you have to click "back" 11 times to get back to the previous page. replaceState() works a lot better: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/API/DOM/Manipulating_the_browser_history#The_replaceState()_method https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/API/DOM/M...
- davidbarker 11y ago
  Would replaceState() help? http://stackoverflow.com/a/20937387/1619998 http://stackoverflow.com/a/20937387/1619998
weavie 11y ago
This pretty much sums up the state of the UK job market : https://imgur.com/qLzxV7U https://imgur.com/qLzxV7U
- logicallee 11y ago
  it's not just quantity, either. In the UK developers make like £25k (which is $39K). I'm not even joking - http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Front_End_Developer_%2f_Engineer/Salary/2b122b63/PHP http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Front_End_Developer_... That's £25k for someone with both front-end and PHP back-end skills. Less than 10% of these jobs reach $54K - according to that, if you're earning $54K in the UK you're in the top 10% of developers. That £25k median isn't all that much more valuable than, I don't know, a secretary, the median of whom earns £19k (i.e. only 20% less) and normally requires no skills other than the ability to type and be organized. http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Secretary/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Secretary/Salary whereas a front-end engineer with php literally programmed Facebook (talking about Zuck), or can program the next one. It's kind of sad, really.
  - onion2k 11y ago
    a front-end engineer with php literally programmed Facebook (talking about Zuck), or can program the next one That's a pretty glaring logic failure. The fact that Mark Zuckerberg was a PHP developer does not mean that every PHP developer could be Mark Zuckerberg.
  - jarek 11y ago
    "Individuals Reporting: 34" This data is shit. If your skills are anywhere near programming Facebook circa 2004 you will be making way more than £25k.
  - m_t 11y ago
    We do have the NHS though.
  - sz4kerto 11y ago
    And programmers in the City make >100k. Not all of them, of course, but many. And 80k is average.
kirchhoff 11y ago
This breaks the back button.
- metasean 11y ago
  Worked fine for me on FF 39.0. Edit to add: with the caveat that it is going back through the maps, per meritt's comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9839060 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9839060). I don't find the map history problematic.
- zenonu 11y ago
  Broken on Version 43.0.2357.130 m of Chrome.
Saus 11y ago
Fusionbox (Denver Colorado) is displayed in a Dutch Themepark. On top of the rollercoaster 'The Python', because their location is 'Python'. http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/51.6468119/5.05352849999997/15 http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/51.6468119/5.05352849... http://rcdb.com/897.htm http://rcdb.com/897.htm
- xando 11y ago
  Thanks for this. I will fix it. This may happen. I was trying hard to get the all the locations right, although number of formats used may confused things. Although here Python was recognised as Location, and came before the real Location.
  - lake99 11y ago
    The one for Scribd is wrong too. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9816112 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9816112 is identified as a job in Berlin. I think the mods should enforce some address formats to make things more convenient for tools such as yours.
    - j_jochem 11y ago
      If you zoom in, it is actually placed in Frankfurt an der Oder. I'm not sure how they got THAT idea.
      - lorenzhs 11y ago
        If you zoom in further, it is actually placed Slubice, Poland, just across the border from Frankfurt an der Oder ;) Still no idea how it got there, though.
- mrfusion 11y ago
  There are also a couple "java" locations in the middle of Virginia.
- lorenzhs 11y ago
ingenieros 11y ago
Unite (Los Angeles, CA) shows up in Oaxaca. http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/17.116676976573096/-96.75052172142637/15 http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/17.116676976573096/-9...
mike-cardwell 11y ago
The job-description text on the right hand side isn't wrapping for me, meaning I can't read most of it unless I double click to select all and then copy/paste it into a text editor. I'm using Firefox 39 on Debian. EDIT: If I change your "white-space: pre" to "pre-wrap" or "pre-line" that fixes it.
- mcguire 11y ago
  Same, with Firefox 38 on a recent Ubuntu. The same fix works.
afandian 11y ago
Call me a nitpicker, but this the URL looks like an Italian jobs site.
wsvincent 11y ago
http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/42.6931351/-73.37205489999997/9 http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/42.6931351/-73.372054... Berlin, NY is being shown here. Text from post is "Berlin, NYC,..." Cool visualization.
michaelmior 11y ago
Ha! There's a small town in southern Ontario called Ajax and it seems to have placed a job there with AJAX in the description. This is a reasonable error though I think. Very cool overall :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9816153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9816153
- johnymontana 11y ago
  Also, there are four jobs with the text "Amazon" in the listing being shown on the map in Amazon, Montana...
  - jnotarstefano 11y ago
    And a Scala job has been placed in a town called Scala in Italy, not far from Naples.
27182818284 11y ago
Thanks for doing this! I really enjoy the locations listed in the HN threads, so this is perfect for me!
JDiculous 11y ago
This is awesome. Seriously. I never go through the regular "Who is Hiring?" thread because I don't have time to comb through a humongous list of unfiltered text posts, 90% of which aren't relevant to me. There have been other attempts to format the thing, but this is the best I've seen so far. One minor bug: I'm seeing a listing titled "---" that starts with "I am a Junior Front End Developer. I eventually want to go into...". Seems to have picked up a comment by accident and interpreted it as a job posting.
- delecti 11y ago
  It's easy enough to just Ctrl+f for your location name, my biggest complaint is all the entries that don't say what their company does. It's all well and good that you're in my city and I'm familiar with the tools you use, but if you can't be arsed to include a single sentence description of why your company exists, I'm much less likely to care. Bonus points if your description isn't buzzword laden nonsense.
  - christop 11y ago
    Descriptions would be great, but without regex support and a list of every town in your area, Ctrl+F doesn't really help. A map is a much nicer alternative to trying "San Francisco", "Bay Area", "SF", "Oakland", "Berkeley", "Silicon Valley", "Palo Alto", "Menlo Park" etc..
    - delecti 11y ago
      Ah, I imagine that problem is worse for that area. "Seattle" is pretty much just "Seattle".
      - Symbiote 11y ago
        It's not just there. I was searching for London, Reading, Cambridge, Guildford etc, then also for any major city in western Europe. United Kingdom, England, Britain... The map is loads better :-)
TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
It'd be cool if it'd show a precision circle (a la Apple Maps) rather than make it look like 49 London companies are in exactly the same spot.
rodolphoarruda 11y ago
That's why I want to move away from Latin America... About the tool itself. Great work! It really helps saving us time when looking for opps within a certain region.
- chilicuil 11y ago
  It's not only LA, everything but USA, UK and a couple of other Europe countries is empty, I think that's because the kind of start-up mentality fits better in those areas, there are plenty of opportunities in other parts of the world, not to mention that many of job offers listed here allow remote applicants =). This is a better HN job listing though.
tudorw 11y ago
Wow, only 5 out of the 50 jobs in London are offered remotely, I thought the Internet was meant to change things!
- nkassis 11y ago
  I think the debate is still open on the benefits and drawbacks of remote jobs. It's going to take a long time to change the culture.
- izolate 11y ago
  And of those, most of them are remote but require UK residence.
zuzuleinen 11y ago
Great job! Thanks :)
blackjack48 11y ago
Really awesome tool - I'm not sure how (or if) it handles multiple locations, but the listing for TrueCar gets plotted at "Santa Monica Way, SF" rather than Santa Monica and SF.
- xando 11y ago
  Thanks. I doesn't, I don't think I know how to handle them right now. The number of possible formats for locations that people use is already huge. Trying to figure how to split them may be hard to solve.
pla3rhat3r 11y ago
LOVE this. So cool. Nice and simple. The way shit's supposed to be.
adaml_623 11y ago
Can you allow users to submit location corrections please. You've got a job that's in Canberra smack in the middle of Australia.
- joeshaw 11y ago
  It may correct itself as you zoom in. It seems to group geographic areas together in somewhat centralized locations to avoid having too many bubbles at a particular zoom level. If you zoom in on the east coast of the US, for instance, jobs are grouped between NYC and Boston and the location of the bubble doesn't make much sense until you zoom in further and see them separated.
- xando 11y ago
  Ok It looks like this is the biggest issue, I mean guessing locations. This might be hard, I'm using named entity recognition approach, although even with this is not that perfect. Also Is really common to put more than one location, in different formants. I'm planning to add UI widged to flag post as misplaced. Here the first location appears as Australia and isn't followed by any city, also the next entity is not location. So we are done. Australia is the location. Said that I will fix the job position manually.
  - dmckeon 11y ago
    First, nice work - this is the kind of user interface and lookup tool that could serve as an great example. Next, great job of taking the comments constructively. Last, lest anyone think that the next Silicon Valley is on the King River east of Fresno, I think that cluster of 8 is centered in the location "California".
    - xando 11y ago
      Thanks. Finding locations is not perfect, I'm aware. I will try to come up with something more accurate before next "Who is hiring?"
smortaz 11y ago
thanks for doing this. much easier to digest.
c0nfused 11y ago
So, apparently there are a good number of tech jobs in Java Virginia, USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java,_Virginia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java,_Virginia I suspect those might not actually be there.
- cphuntington97 11y ago
  the small town of Alabama, NY also representing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9812941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9812941 "Decatur, AL / NYC"
  - Yhippa 11y ago
    With the sheer volume of posts in WiH it's serious work to Ctrl+F your way through each post and find something based on your criteria. Wish there was a way to normalize that data somehow.
- evan_ 11y ago
  There's also one in "SAN FRANCISCO Oregon" - or, as the ad states it, "SAN FRANCISCO OR REMOTE." That's why I spelled out "Oregon" in the ad I posted.
sush1612 11y ago
This is awesome!!! The idea of plotting this information on maps is too good.
navan 11y ago
You beat me to it. I was working on this and downloaded all the items using firebase API. Great job. How did you parse the location? I thought that would be the hardest part.
- xando 11y ago
  I think you are right. It's pretty hard. I'm using NER approach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Named-entity_recognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Named-entity_recognition There is a room for improvements.
python490 11y ago
Now for a site to help college grads to see who is hiring.
pjmlp 11y ago
As Portuguese I wonder why Novoda was placed on the country if they are listed as LONDON/LIVERPOOL/BERLIN company.
BinaryIdiot 11y ago
Pretty neat! Along with the better location accuracy / being able to modify them that people are suggesting it would be nice to improve the combination circles so that they're over their respective areas. For instance if I zoom in at just the right distance over Washington D.C. it'll show a circle above the city with a number in it and you can clearly see Baltimore as well but Baltimore has no circles until you zoom one more level at which point it then separates the circles. Example: http://imgur.com/a/A3Xtq http://imgur.com/a/A3Xtq Also being able to double click on the map to zoom would be nice!
- xando 11y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. The fist issues sums as the clustering algorithm, which currently is not prefect. Current clustering works on a grid. So it's possible to have two close dots not being clustered, because are leaving in the different cells of the map grid. Although I have alternative one which will try soon. Map zoom shouldn't be a problem.
brianzelip 11y ago
Your post job page[0] states whoishiring posts every first day of the month. However the post actually happens every first weekday of the month. [1] [0]http://whoishiring.it/#!/add/ http://whoishiring.it/#!/add/ [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=whoishiring https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=whoishiring
- xando 11y ago
  Noted. I will fix it.
joeax 11y ago
THANK YOU for being able to search for remote jobs. That is awesome! Now some feedback - browsing the map/zooming in bloats out my back stack. A couple back clicks is ok, but it took 20+ just to get back to where I was.
pyre 11y ago
Bug Report #1: 1. Scroll to the bottom of the list on the right. 2. Click to expand the final item in the list. 3. There is no visual cue that you can now scroll down further to see the expansion. The first item in the list that I click on was the final list item, and I thought that nothing had happened (Note: This could just be an issue with OSX's hidden scrollbars. I can't see if you've disabled it on all platforms, but lots of devs are on OSX). {edit} I guess I should mention my suggestion. If you're already scrolled to the bottom of the scroll area, and then you take an action that expands the scroll area further down, your position in the scroll area should move to the "new" bottom. There are obviously caveats to this though (e.g. if scrolling to the new bottom would scroll your old position off-screen, this may be disorienting to the user depending on the content and other visual cues). {/edit} Bug Report #2: I tried to click the "mail@whoishiring.it" at the bottom (as it's a clickable link), and was taken to a CloudFlare page about how it's hiding the email address for "protection." The issue here is that the link text itself is the email address, so nothing is really hidden (except maybe from poorly written bots crawling the web). NOTE: This is not meant to be negative or down on your work. It's really great, I just like to take the time for some constructive criticism when there the authors' attention is on the threads (and it's not a e.g. Github project -- that I can see -- so I can't really just open an issue in the bug tracker).
- xando 11y ago
  Thanks for the feedback ad 1. Yes, I think you right about the this being a bit confusing. Although I'm not sure if scrolling to bottom, would be ideal as well. Although I will try to test your suggestion. Maybe will feel right. ad. 2. Fixed. This was default for CloudFare (they are awesome) ad. NOTE. No worries, all the feedback here was great and supper useful.
  - bwaxxlo 11y ago
    Maybe have it as an accordion.
- specialk 11y ago
  Might as well keep all the bug reports in the same thread. I noticed one more thing on the job posting text: the word-breaking is a little off. Here's a image with one example: http://i.imgur.com/Zuv1Zjc.png http://i.imgur.com/Zuv1Zjc.png CSS's word-wrap: break-word is probably not want you want to be using for that container. One other thing I noticed but that isn't a simple fix is postings like this one from HubSpot[1] list two locations Cambridge MA and Dublin Ireland but the ad only shows up in Dublin. I thought I'd point it out if you're looking for some more work :D This is awesome. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9813335 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9813335
xando 11y ago
Thanks for the feedback so far. It looks like the biggest issue is guessing locations. I have few ideas how to improve it, although fixing it may be hard. Number of possible formats is huge, and event then the same format could be two different things eg. multiple locations (London, Berlin) vs location with state (San Francisco, CA) I was trying fix most of the places posted in comments here. For those asking how I map locations. I'm using text tagging with named entity recognition approach.
apassenger 11y ago
First of all awesome work. However it seems the keyword 'C++' doesn't work in the "Text search feature", it seems the '+' is stripped from the keyword.
- xando 11y ago
  Noted. Will try to address it before next "Who is hiring?" post.
leroy_masochist 11y ago
This is an awesome tool. I wonder if whoishiring would consider asking future job posters to format jobs specifically -- maybe JSONify the key details -- so it's easier for tools like this map to scrape.
- xando 11y ago
  There is a note here http://whoishiring.it/#!/add/ http://whoishiring.it/#!/add/ about suggested format. Although "Who is hiring?" has its own tradition and flexibility. So formant shouldn't be enforced be some tool that maps job posts :)
raiders 11y ago
hello!
Nate75Sanders 11y ago
I'm curious as to how you're placing these. 21 jobs in downtown Seattle, but 2 specifically in Ballard (neighborhood), but I didn't see mention of Ballard in their job posts.
chuckcode 11y ago
The difference between SF Bay Area and Los Angeles is pretty striking with 241 vs 5 listings.
kendallpark 11y ago
Great tool. Location is one of the biggest factors for most devs as they decide where to apply.
rmason 11y ago
You've got a few problems with map placement. A firm in Grand Rapids and another in Traverse City are both listed in the Michigan woods between the two cities.
777lisa 11y ago
this is pretty cool, simple yet elegant!
sliverstorm 11y ago
I'm floored by the wide geographic range of listings. Sure, the gross majority are in SF, NY, & London (all English-speaking cities to boot!) but Zurich? Belgrade? Maui? Wow.
- mooreds 11y ago
  Yes, it is quite the variation. I know I have recommended posting on this thread to anyone looking for tech talent. I haven't seen a demographic survey of the HN population, but from my anecdotal experience it is far wider than the SF/NYC tech scene. The Maui opportunity is, unfortunately, just an unpaid internship (they are upfront about it in the listing at least). I wonder what kind of uptake they got...
perspectivezoom 11y ago
Nice job. You may want to take a look at https://github.com/gaganpreet/hn-hiring-mapped/ https://github.com/gaganpreet/hn-hiring-mapped/, who wrote a python script to extract location info from who's hiring posts. (Demo at http://gaganpreet.github.io/hn-hiring-mapped/src/web/ http://gaganpreet.github.io/hn-hiring-mapped/src/web/)
- xando 11y ago
  I'm aware of its existence. Even asked a question about license. No response yet. As for location algorithm. It looks less robust than what I'm using right now. Although I might be wrong. Haven't tested since can't use it.
  - gsa 11y ago
    Author of the Python script here. Sorry I didn't get around to adding a license sooner. I just added one.
ZainRiz 11y ago
Where is this data sourced from? Are you pulling it from somewhere or does it need to be manually entered by recruiters?
- xando 11y ago
  This website "Who is hiring?" series.
gomezjdaniel 11y ago
Just let zoom with double click in the map and you'll make it
gomezjdaniel 11y ago
Just let zoom with double click in the map and you'll make it
kremdela 11y ago
This is great. I've posted about this before, but my biggest pet peeve with /jobs is a lack of location in the title. Presently there are 18 jobs posted there, only 1 (GoCardless - London) mentions a location in the title. I live in NY and the difference in an office in Brooklyn / Midtown would be the difference in me applying to the job. I imagine East Bay vs. Palo Alto is a similar story.
- arclyte 11y ago
  I'm in the South Bronx and looking to move northward, so anything that's in Brooklyn is a no-go for me - it'd be quicker for me to get to some places in New Jersey. So I definitely feel ya on this one. I think rent is cheaper and a lot of devs are living in Brooklyn these days, so I'm seeing more dev shops opening up down that way, so location is a big deal even when you're in a big metro - emphasis on _big_. Getting from one end of NYC to the other can cost you 2+ hours (each way) depending on trains and whatnot, so it's no little quibble.
tbomb 11y ago
Great work! This will be helpful to me and I'm sure a lot of others.
bliti 11y ago
Great job! I specifically enjoy the ability to filter by "Remote". What did you use to build this?
- xando 11y ago
  Angular JS for the UI, Python for the tools, Elasticsearch for the search.
Imagenuity 11y ago
It gets Vancouver, BC and Vancouver, WA mixed up. It should assume Vancouver means BC. Otherwise, nicely done! Have you thought about how to do REMOTE/location independent jobs? And for freelancers?
nshirahatti 11y ago
This is a great presentation tool of YC jobs. I really like how the text search is based on mapview. Would be nice to have the jobs distributed by zip code. SFO and London seem very clustered. Great work.
jayzalowitz 11y ago
I built something like this a while back at setonia.com, solved a lot of your problems you are seeing, lmk if i can help somehow.
dacracot 11y ago
Zillow meets Indeed.
nmrm2 11y ago
I was really confused about the middle-of-nowhere-Kansas tech hub until I realized it's just the middle of the US.
programmermap 11y ago
Saw this and had to sign up to post this comment: I'm basically building this the other way round by listing programmers worldwide. Currently, you can view the top 15 programmers of specific cities along with projects and language statistics, but I plan on adding a worldmap for the most influential programmers worldwide. To see a city, you can check San Francisco for example http://programmermap.com/area/san-francisco-ca-usa/ http://programmermap.com/area/san-francisco-ca-usa/
gibrown 11y ago
Nice. I think there is some bugginess in looking at remote jobs: - In the "Europe" search with remote set to "yes" I see my posting for "Automattic" - Change the location to "Boston" and it is not there (and neither are any other remote jobs. - Also, shouldn't remote be defaulted to 'yes' :)
navs 11y ago
No New Zealand :(
SQL2219 11y ago
Grid Versions http://www.jobdensity.com/QueryGrid.aspx?q=936&t=Software%20Engineer&qt=6/29/2015%208:51:25%20PM http://www.jobdensity.com/QueryGrid.aspx?q=936&t=Software%20... http://www.jobdensity.com/QueryGrid.aspx?q=938&t=python&qt=6/29/2015%209:01:46%20PM http://www.jobdensity.com/QueryGrid.aspx?q=938&t=python&qt=6... http://www.jobdensity.com/techsector.aspx http://www.jobdensity.com/techsector.aspx
- boaconstructor 11y ago
  Thanks for that link! It's interesting to check it against my site's jobs-per-location data: http://techjobs.me/stats/city_stats http://techjobs.me/stats/city_stats At a glance, there doesn't seem to be that much of a correlation in the respective sites' data sets, but that's probably partially explained by the fact that we filter out all recruiters and certain large companies, outsourcers, and consultants (which gives the startups a heavier weight in influencing the rankings).
pcote 11y ago
What interests me the most is how some states seem to almost repel the kinds of startups that would post on HN. The northern midwest looks particularly bad on this map.
vinceyuan 11y ago
Excellent work! Why are there so many startups in San Francisco?
NnamdiJr 11y ago
This is great. It's crazy how huge the Who is Hiring thread has become since it began on HN. Browsing it has gone from a quick scan through to a time consuming process, even using Ctrl + F and other shortcuts. I've been looking forward to a tool that would make going through the posts easier, so very happy to see this!
jayrparro 11y ago
I've tried it and the work location on the map seems incorrect. I'm looking at a specific location, eg: Philippines, but the work location that's been pin in the map are from the US. Pls. see attach link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12912452/map_hiring.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12912452/map_hiring.jpg
- xando 11y ago
  thanks for the report. Location extraction algorithm is not perfect. Will try to make it better over time.
dmak 11y ago
This is great. I noticed a lot more exposure based on the emails coming in. Also awesome to see other companies in my city who are hiring and on HN as well.
fierycatnet 11y ago
Is this open source? On Github or anything like that?
dkris 11y ago
I would love it if you can add a "Reset" function which would zoom out the map to default state. After digging in deep enough its a pain to get back to zero state.
markovbling 11y ago
Sad to see Africa so empty! Great job! :)
adamzerner 11y ago
Classic "why didn't I think of that"
garyjob 11y ago
Pretty cool!
dfrey 11y ago
I didn't look through the listings in that much detail, but I did notice that the one listing in Canada is on the wrong place on the map.
- xando 11y ago
  I'm working on the new alg. to extract location. Next "Who is hiring?" should be way more precise.
qtrain 11y ago
Is the source available for this awweessommme app?

546 points by xando 11y ago

This is pretty cool. I'd advise not changing the URL with every map movement and instead let the user generate a linkable URL upon demand. This created quite the enormous history list after only using a few minutes.

xando 11y ago
To be honest this didn't cross my mind. But true, I should do something about it.
- bhousel 11y ago
  You can keep your urls sharable and avoid breaking the back button by storing the map state in the url hash. something like: `location.hash = '#map/' + mapLat + '/' + mapLng + '/'+ mapZoom;` Here's an example of one I made for a client recently. http://www.btforasthma.com/find-a-clinic?ctry=US&state=NY&loc=10001#map/40.78079/-73.97894/40.72332/-73.94897/10 http://www.btforasthma.com/find-a-clinic?ctry=US&state=NY&lo... Incidentally, if anyone is looking to hire a consultant with mapping experience, hit me up.
  - evan_ 11y ago
    That still creates a history state, so if you make 10 map moves, you have to click "back" 11 times to get back to the previous page. replaceState() works a lot better: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/API/DOM/Manipulating_the_browser_history#The_replaceState()_method https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/API/DOM/M...
davidbarker 11y ago
Would replaceState() help? http://stackoverflow.com/a/20937387/1619998 http://stackoverflow.com/a/20937387/1619998

weavie 11y ago

This pretty much sums up the state of the UK job market : https://imgur.com/qLzxV7U https://imgur.com/qLzxV7U

logicallee 11y ago
it's not just quantity, either. In the UK developers make like £25k (which is $39K). I'm not even joking - http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Front_End_Developer_%2f_Engineer/Salary/2b122b63/PHP http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Front_End_Developer_... That's £25k for someone with both front-end and PHP back-end skills. Less than 10% of these jobs reach $54K - according to that, if you're earning $54K in the UK you're in the top 10% of developers. That £25k median isn't all that much more valuable than, I don't know, a secretary, the median of whom earns £19k (i.e. only 20% less) and normally requires no skills other than the ability to type and be organized. http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Secretary/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Secretary/Salary whereas a front-end engineer with php literally programmed Facebook (talking about Zuck), or can program the next one. It's kind of sad, really.
- onion2k 11y ago
  a front-end engineer with php literally programmed Facebook (talking about Zuck), or can program the next one That's a pretty glaring logic failure. The fact that Mark Zuckerberg was a PHP developer does not mean that every PHP developer could be Mark Zuckerberg.
- jarek 11y ago
  "Individuals Reporting: 34" This data is shit. If your skills are anywhere near programming Facebook circa 2004 you will be making way more than £25k.
- m_t 11y ago
  We do have the NHS though.
- sz4kerto 11y ago
  And programmers in the City make >100k. Not all of them, of course, but many. And 80k is average.

kirchhoff 11y ago

This breaks the back button.

metasean 11y ago
Worked fine for me on FF 39.0. Edit to add: with the caveat that it is going back through the maps, per meritt's comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9839060 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9839060). I don't find the map history problematic.
zenonu 11y ago
Broken on Version 43.0.2357.130 m of Chrome.

Saus 11y ago

Fusionbox (Denver Colorado) is displayed in a Dutch Themepark. On top of the rollercoaster 'The Python', because their location is 'Python'. http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/51.6468119/5.05352849999997/15 http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/51.6468119/5.05352849... http://rcdb.com/897.htm http://rcdb.com/897.htm

xando 11y ago
Thanks for this. I will fix it. This may happen. I was trying hard to get the all the locations right, although number of formats used may confused things. Although here Python was recognised as Location, and came before the real Location.
- lake99 11y ago
  The one for Scribd is wrong too. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9816112 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9816112 is identified as a job in Berlin. I think the mods should enforce some address formats to make things more convenient for tools such as yours.
  - j_jochem 11y ago
    If you zoom in, it is actually placed in Frankfurt an der Oder. I'm not sure how they got THAT idea.
    - lorenzhs 11y ago
      If you zoom in further, it is actually placed Slubice, Poland, just across the border from Frankfurt an der Oder ;) Still no idea how it got there, though.
mrfusion 11y ago
There are also a couple "java" locations in the middle of Virginia.
lorenzhs 11y ago

ingenieros 11y ago

Unite (Los Angeles, CA) shows up in Oaxaca. http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/17.116676976573096/-96.75052172142637/15 http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/17.116676976573096/-9...

mike-cardwell 11y ago

The job-description text on the right hand side isn't wrapping for me, meaning I can't read most of it unless I double click to select all and then copy/paste it into a text editor. I'm using Firefox 39 on Debian. EDIT: If I change your "white-space: pre" to "pre-wrap" or "pre-line" that fixes it.

mcguire 11y ago
Same, with Firefox 38 on a recent Ubuntu. The same fix works.

afandian 11y ago

Call me a nitpicker, but this the URL looks like an Italian jobs site.

wsvincent 11y ago

http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/42.6931351/-73.37205489999997/9 http://whoishiring.it/#!/search/Europe/42.6931351/-73.372054... Berlin, NY is being shown here. Text from post is "Berlin, NYC,..." Cool visualization.

michaelmior 11y ago

Ha! There's a small town in southern Ontario called Ajax and it seems to have placed a job there with AJAX in the description. This is a reasonable error though I think. Very cool overall :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9816153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9816153

johnymontana 11y ago
Also, there are four jobs with the text "Amazon" in the listing being shown on the map in Amazon, Montana...
- jnotarstefano 11y ago
  And a Scala job has been placed in a town called Scala in Italy, not far from Naples.

27182818284 11y ago

Thanks for doing this! I really enjoy the locations listed in the HN threads, so this is perfect for me!

JDiculous 11y ago

This is awesome. Seriously. I never go through the regular "Who is Hiring?" thread because I don't have time to comb through a humongous list of unfiltered text posts, 90% of which aren't relevant to me. There have been other attempts to format the thing, but this is the best I've seen so far. One minor bug: I'm seeing a listing titled "---" that starts with "I am a Junior Front End Developer. I eventually want to go into...". Seems to have picked up a comment by accident and interpreted it as a job posting.

delecti 11y ago
It's easy enough to just Ctrl+f for your location name, my biggest complaint is all the entries that don't say what their company does. It's all well and good that you're in my city and I'm familiar with the tools you use, but if you can't be arsed to include a single sentence description of why your company exists, I'm much less likely to care. Bonus points if your description isn't buzzword laden nonsense.
- christop 11y ago
  Descriptions would be great, but without regex support and a list of every town in your area, Ctrl+F doesn't really help. A map is a much nicer alternative to trying "San Francisco", "Bay Area", "SF", "Oakland", "Berkeley", "Silicon Valley", "Palo Alto", "Menlo Park" etc..
  - delecti 11y ago
    Ah, I imagine that problem is worse for that area. "Seattle" is pretty much just "Seattle".
    - Symbiote 11y ago
      It's not just there. I was searching for London, Reading, Cambridge, Guildford etc, then also for any major city in western Europe. United Kingdom, England, Britain... The map is loads better :-)

TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago

It'd be cool if it'd show a precision circle (a la Apple Maps) rather than make it look like 49 London companies are in exactly the same spot.

rodolphoarruda 11y ago

That's why I want to move away from Latin America... About the tool itself. Great work! It really helps saving us time when looking for opps within a certain region.

chilicuil 11y ago
It's not only LA, everything but USA, UK and a couple of other Europe countries is empty, I think that's because the kind of start-up mentality fits better in those areas, there are plenty of opportunities in other parts of the world, not to mention that many of job offers listed here allow remote applicants =). This is a better HN job listing though.

tudorw 11y ago

Wow, only 5 out of the 50 jobs in London are offered remotely, I thought the Internet was meant to change things!

nkassis 11y ago
I think the debate is still open on the benefits and drawbacks of remote jobs. It's going to take a long time to change the culture.
izolate 11y ago
And of those, most of them are remote but require UK residence.

zuzuleinen 11y ago

Great job! Thanks :)

blackjack48 11y ago

Really awesome tool - I'm not sure how (or if) it handles multiple locations, but the listing for TrueCar gets plotted at "Santa Monica Way, SF" rather than Santa Monica and SF.

xando 11y ago
Thanks. I doesn't, I don't think I know how to handle them right now. The number of possible formats for locations that people use is already huge. Trying to figure how to split them may be hard to solve.

pla3rhat3r 11y ago

LOVE this. So cool. Nice and simple. The way shit's supposed to be.

adaml_623 11y ago

Can you allow users to submit location corrections please. You've got a job that's in Canberra smack in the middle of Australia.

joeshaw 11y ago
It may correct itself as you zoom in. It seems to group geographic areas together in somewhat centralized locations to avoid having too many bubbles at a particular zoom level. If you zoom in on the east coast of the US, for instance, jobs are grouped between NYC and Boston and the location of the bubble doesn't make much sense until you zoom in further and see them separated.
xando 11y ago
Ok It looks like this is the biggest issue, I mean guessing locations. This might be hard, I'm using named entity recognition approach, although even with this is not that perfect. Also Is really common to put more than one location, in different formants. I'm planning to add UI widged to flag post as misplaced. Here the first location appears as Australia and isn't followed by any city, also the next entity is not location. So we are done. Australia is the location. Said that I will fix the job position manually.
- dmckeon 11y ago
  First, nice work - this is the kind of user interface and lookup tool that could serve as an great example. Next, great job of taking the comments constructively. Last, lest anyone think that the next Silicon Valley is on the King River east of Fresno, I think that cluster of 8 is centered in the location "California".
  - xando 11y ago
    Thanks. Finding locations is not perfect, I'm aware. I will try to come up with something more accurate before next "Who is hiring?"

smortaz 11y ago

thanks for doing this. much easier to digest.

c0nfused 11y ago

So, apparently there are a good number of tech jobs in Java Virginia, USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java,_Virginia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java,_Virginia I suspect those might not actually be there.

cphuntington97 11y ago
the small town of Alabama, NY also representing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9812941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9812941 "Decatur, AL / NYC"
- Yhippa 11y ago
  With the sheer volume of posts in WiH it's serious work to Ctrl+F your way through each post and find something based on your criteria. Wish there was a way to normalize that data somehow.
evan_ 11y ago
There's also one in "SAN FRANCISCO Oregon" - or, as the ad states it, "SAN FRANCISCO OR REMOTE." That's why I spelled out "Oregon" in the ad I posted.

sush1612 11y ago

This is awesome!!! The idea of plotting this information on maps is too good.

navan 11y ago

You beat me to it. I was working on this and downloaded all the items using firebase API. Great job. How did you parse the location? I thought that would be the hardest part.

xando 11y ago
I think you are right. It's pretty hard. I'm using NER approach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Named-entity_recognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Named-entity_recognition There is a room for improvements.

python490 11y ago

Now for a site to help college grads to see who is hiring.

pjmlp 11y ago

As Portuguese I wonder why Novoda was placed on the country if they are listed as LONDON/LIVERPOOL/BERLIN company.

BinaryIdiot 11y ago

Pretty neat! Along with the better location accuracy / being able to modify them that people are suggesting it would be nice to improve the combination circles so that they're over their respective areas. For instance if I zoom in at just the right distance over Washington D.C. it'll show a circle above the city with a number in it and you can clearly see Baltimore as well but Baltimore has no circles until you zoom one more level at which point it then separates the circles. Example: http://imgur.com/a/A3Xtq http://imgur.com/a/A3Xtq Also being able to double click on the map to zoom would be nice!

xando 11y ago
Thanks for the feedback. The fist issues sums as the clustering algorithm, which currently is not prefect. Current clustering works on a grid. So it's possible to have two close dots not being clustered, because are leaving in the different cells of the map grid. Although I have alternative one which will try soon. Map zoom shouldn't be a problem.

brianzelip 11y ago

Your post job page[0] states whoishiring posts every first day of the month. However the post actually happens every first weekday of the month. [1] [0]http://whoishiring.it/#!/add/ http://whoishiring.it/#!/add/ [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=whoishiring https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=whoishiring

xando 11y ago
Noted. I will fix it.

joeax 11y ago

THANK YOU for being able to search for remote jobs. That is awesome! Now some feedback - browsing the map/zooming in bloats out my back stack. A couple back clicks is ok, but it took 20+ just to get back to where I was.

pyre 11y ago

Bug Report #1: 1. Scroll to the bottom of the list on the right. 2. Click to expand the final item in the list. 3. There is no visual cue that you can now scroll down further to see the expansion. The first item in the list that I click on was the final list item, and I thought that nothing had happened (Note: This could just be an issue with OSX's hidden scrollbars. I can't see if you've disabled it on all platforms, but lots of devs are on OSX). {edit} I guess I should mention my suggestion. If you're already scrolled to the bottom of the scroll area, and then you take an action that expands the scroll area further down, your position in the scroll area should move to the "new" bottom. There are obviously caveats to this though (e.g. if scrolling to the new bottom would scroll your old position off-screen, this may be disorienting to the user depending on the content and other visual cues). {/edit} Bug Report #2: I tried to click the "mail@whoishiring.it" at the bottom (as it's a clickable link), and was taken to a CloudFlare page about how it's hiding the email address for "protection." The issue here is that the link text itself is the email address, so nothing is really hidden (except maybe from poorly written bots crawling the web). NOTE: This is not meant to be negative or down on your work. It's really great, I just like to take the time for some constructive criticism when there the authors' attention is on the threads (and it's not a e.g. Github project -- that I can see -- so I can't really just open an issue in the bug tracker).

xando 11y ago
Thanks for the feedback ad 1. Yes, I think you right about the this being a bit confusing. Although I'm not sure if scrolling to bottom, would be ideal as well. Although I will try to test your suggestion. Maybe will feel right. ad. 2. Fixed. This was default for CloudFare (they are awesome) ad. NOTE. No worries, all the feedback here was great and supper useful.
- bwaxxlo 11y ago
  Maybe have it as an accordion.
specialk 11y ago
Might as well keep all the bug reports in the same thread. I noticed one more thing on the job posting text: the word-breaking is a little off. Here's a image with one example: http://i.imgur.com/Zuv1Zjc.png http://i.imgur.com/Zuv1Zjc.png CSS's word-wrap: break-word is probably not want you want to be using for that container. One other thing I noticed but that isn't a simple fix is postings like this one from HubSpot[1] list two locations Cambridge MA and Dublin Ireland but the ad only shows up in Dublin. I thought I'd point it out if you're looking for some more work :D This is awesome. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9813335 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9813335

xando 11y ago

Thanks for the feedback so far. It looks like the biggest issue is guessing locations. I have few ideas how to improve it, although fixing it may be hard. Number of possible formats is huge, and event then the same format could be two different things eg. multiple locations (London, Berlin) vs location with state (San Francisco, CA) I was trying fix most of the places posted in comments here. For those asking how I map locations. I'm using text tagging with named entity recognition approach.

apassenger 11y ago

First of all awesome work. However it seems the keyword 'C++' doesn't work in the "Text search feature", it seems the '+' is stripped from the keyword.

xando 11y ago
Noted. Will try to address it before next "Who is hiring?" post.

leroy_masochist 11y ago

This is an awesome tool. I wonder if whoishiring would consider asking future job posters to format jobs specifically -- maybe JSONify the key details -- so it's easier for tools like this map to scrape.

xando 11y ago
There is a note here http://whoishiring.it/#!/add/ http://whoishiring.it/#!/add/ about suggested format. Although "Who is hiring?" has its own tradition and flexibility. So formant shouldn't be enforced be some tool that maps job posts :)

raiders 11y ago

hello!

Nate75Sanders 11y ago

I'm curious as to how you're placing these. 21 jobs in downtown Seattle, but 2 specifically in Ballard (neighborhood), but I didn't see mention of Ballard in their job posts.

chuckcode 11y ago

The difference between SF Bay Area and Los Angeles is pretty striking with 241 vs 5 listings.

kendallpark 11y ago

Great tool. Location is one of the biggest factors for most devs as they decide where to apply.

rmason 11y ago

You've got a few problems with map placement. A firm in Grand Rapids and another in Traverse City are both listed in the Michigan woods between the two cities.

777lisa 11y ago

this is pretty cool, simple yet elegant!

sliverstorm 11y ago

I'm floored by the wide geographic range of listings. Sure, the gross majority are in SF, NY, & London (all English-speaking cities to boot!) but Zurich? Belgrade? Maui? Wow.

mooreds 11y ago
Yes, it is quite the variation. I know I have recommended posting on this thread to anyone looking for tech talent. I haven't seen a demographic survey of the HN population, but from my anecdotal experience it is far wider than the SF/NYC tech scene. The Maui opportunity is, unfortunately, just an unpaid internship (they are upfront about it in the listing at least). I wonder what kind of uptake they got...

perspectivezoom 11y ago

Nice job. You may want to take a look at https://github.com/gaganpreet/hn-hiring-mapped/ https://github.com/gaganpreet/hn-hiring-mapped/, who wrote a python script to extract location info from who's hiring posts. (Demo at http://gaganpreet.github.io/hn-hiring-mapped/src/web/ http://gaganpreet.github.io/hn-hiring-mapped/src/web/)

xando 11y ago
I'm aware of its existence. Even asked a question about license. No response yet. As for location algorithm. It looks less robust than what I'm using right now. Although I might be wrong. Haven't tested since can't use it.
- gsa 11y ago
  Author of the Python script here. Sorry I didn't get around to adding a license sooner. I just added one.

ZainRiz 11y ago

Where is this data sourced from? Are you pulling it from somewhere or does it need to be manually entered by recruiters?

xando 11y ago
This website "Who is hiring?" series.

gomezjdaniel 11y ago

Just let zoom with double click in the map and you'll make it

gomezjdaniel 11y ago

Just let zoom with double click in the map and you'll make it

kremdela 11y ago

This is great. I've posted about this before, but my biggest pet peeve with /jobs is a lack of location in the title. Presently there are 18 jobs posted there, only 1 (GoCardless - London) mentions a location in the title. I live in NY and the difference in an office in Brooklyn / Midtown would be the difference in me applying to the job. I imagine East Bay vs. Palo Alto is a similar story.

arclyte 11y ago
I'm in the South Bronx and looking to move northward, so anything that's in Brooklyn is a no-go for me - it'd be quicker for me to get to some places in New Jersey. So I definitely feel ya on this one. I think rent is cheaper and a lot of devs are living in Brooklyn these days, so I'm seeing more dev shops opening up down that way, so location is a big deal even when you're in a big metro - emphasis on _big_. Getting from one end of NYC to the other can cost you 2+ hours (each way) depending on trains and whatnot, so it's no little quibble.

tbomb 11y ago

Great work! This will be helpful to me and I'm sure a lot of others.

bliti 11y ago

Great job! I specifically enjoy the ability to filter by "Remote". What did you use to build this?

xando 11y ago
Angular JS for the UI, Python for the tools, Elasticsearch for the search.

Imagenuity 11y ago

It gets Vancouver, BC and Vancouver, WA mixed up. It should assume Vancouver means BC. Otherwise, nicely done! Have you thought about how to do REMOTE/location independent jobs? And for freelancers?

nshirahatti 11y ago

This is a great presentation tool of YC jobs. I really like how the text search is based on mapview. Would be nice to have the jobs distributed by zip code. SFO and London seem very clustered. Great work.

jayzalowitz 11y ago

I built something like this a while back at setonia.com, solved a lot of your problems you are seeing, lmk if i can help somehow.

dacracot 11y ago

Zillow meets Indeed.

nmrm2 11y ago

I was really confused about the middle-of-nowhere-Kansas tech hub until I realized it's just the middle of the US.

programmermap 11y ago

Saw this and had to sign up to post this comment: I'm basically building this the other way round by listing programmers worldwide. Currently, you can view the top 15 programmers of specific cities along with projects and language statistics, but I plan on adding a worldmap for the most influential programmers worldwide. To see a city, you can check San Francisco for example http://programmermap.com/area/san-francisco-ca-usa/ http://programmermap.com/area/san-francisco-ca-usa/

gibrown 11y ago

Nice. I think there is some bugginess in looking at remote jobs: - In the "Europe" search with remote set to "yes" I see my posting for "Automattic" - Change the location to "Boston" and it is not there (and neither are any other remote jobs. - Also, shouldn't remote be defaulted to 'yes' :)

navs 11y ago

No New Zealand :(

SQL2219 11y ago

Grid Versions http://www.jobdensity.com/QueryGrid.aspx?q=936&t=Software%20Engineer&qt=6/29/2015%208:51:25%20PM http://www.jobdensity.com/QueryGrid.aspx?q=936&t=Software%20... http://www.jobdensity.com/QueryGrid.aspx?q=938&t=python&qt=6/29/2015%209:01:46%20PM http://www.jobdensity.com/QueryGrid.aspx?q=938&t=python&qt=6... http://www.jobdensity.com/techsector.aspx http://www.jobdensity.com/techsector.aspx

boaconstructor 11y ago
Thanks for that link! It's interesting to check it against my site's jobs-per-location data: http://techjobs.me/stats/city_stats http://techjobs.me/stats/city_stats At a glance, there doesn't seem to be that much of a correlation in the respective sites' data sets, but that's probably partially explained by the fact that we filter out all recruiters and certain large companies, outsourcers, and consultants (which gives the startups a heavier weight in influencing the rankings).

pcote 11y ago

What interests me the most is how some states seem to almost repel the kinds of startups that would post on HN. The northern midwest looks particularly bad on this map.

vinceyuan 11y ago

Excellent work! Why are there so many startups in San Francisco?

NnamdiJr 11y ago

This is great. It's crazy how huge the Who is Hiring thread has become since it began on HN. Browsing it has gone from a quick scan through to a time consuming process, even using Ctrl + F and other shortcuts. I've been looking forward to a tool that would make going through the posts easier, so very happy to see this!

jayrparro 11y ago

I've tried it and the work location on the map seems incorrect. I'm looking at a specific location, eg: Philippines, but the work location that's been pin in the map are from the US. Pls. see attach link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12912452/map_hiring.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12912452/map_hiring.jpg

xando 11y ago
thanks for the report. Location extraction algorithm is not perfect. Will try to make it better over time.

dmak 11y ago

This is great. I noticed a lot more exposure based on the emails coming in. Also awesome to see other companies in my city who are hiring and on HN as well.

fierycatnet 11y ago

Is this open source? On Github or anything like that?

dkris 11y ago

I would love it if you can add a "Reset" function which would zoom out the map to default state. After digging in deep enough its a pain to get back to zero state.

markovbling 11y ago

Sad to see Africa so empty! Great job! :)

adamzerner 11y ago

Classic "why didn't I think of that"

garyjob 11y ago

Pretty cool!

dfrey 11y ago

I didn't look through the listings in that much detail, but I did notice that the one listing in Canada is on the wrong place on the map.

xando 11y ago
I'm working on the new alg. to extract location. Next "Who is hiring?" should be way more precise.

qtrain 11y ago

Is the source available for this awweessommme app?