This reminds me of something I always wonder about: the importance of management in startups (once they hit, say, 8 employees). For the most part, if you hire

This reminds me of something I always wonder about: the importance of management in startups (once they hit, say, 8 employees). For the most part, if you hire the right people they are self-motivated and in general the team has a clear direction. But at some point you need good managers -- when is that?