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The countries that were the Allied powers are in no position to call out Germany for not repaying its debts after the second world war because they originated f
by minot 11y ago
The countries that were the Allied powers are in no position to call out Germany for not repaying its debts after the second world war because they originated from the way the Allied powers handled the money situation during and after the Great War.
Look at this quote:
> We cannot demand that new generations must pay for decades for the mistakes of their parents. The Greeks have, without a doubt, made big mistakes. Until 2009, the government in Athens forged its books. But despite this, the younger generation of Greeks carries no more responsibility for the mistakes of its elders than the younger generation of Germans did in the 1950s and 1960s. We need to look ahead. Europe was founded on debt forgiveness and investment in the future. Not on the idea of endless penance. We need to remember this.
In my opinion, this economist just wants to be the next Finance Minister for Greece. If the "older generation" (and I don't know how we can call what happened until six years ago a different generation but we'll let that slide) forged books, then cut them off. Cut their pensions. Cut their retirements. Make them come back to work. You can't blame the "older generation" and still let them retire at 50.
It is incredibly insensitive to blame the German victims of the Versailles Treaty. Do people blame Germany for France's greed? I mean it is pretty evident that the growth of Nazis in Germany came directly from what the Allies levied on Germany.
Moreover, to say that the situation in 2008-09 was equivalent to the horrors that people faced before and during the second world is nothing short of rewriting history. I don't think the people who lived through the great depression would take very kindly of statements like:
> To deny the historical parallels to the postwar period would be wrong. Let’s think about the financial crisis of 2008/2009. This wasn’t just any crisis. It was the biggest financial crisis since 1929. So the comparison is quite valid. This is equally true for the Greek economy: between 2009 and 2015, its GDP has fallen by 25%. This is comparable to the recessions in Germany and France between 1929 and 1935.
With all that being said, I must agree with him in one key point:
> A restructuring of all debt, not just in Greece but in several European countries, is inevitable.
Eurozone must stick together. However, the Greeks must realize a compromise consists of a give and take. They must seek answers from those who were in power in Athens before 2009.
In hindsight, even organizing the 2004 Olympics was a horrible idea. But then hindsight is 20/20.
- jqm 11y ago"> We cannot demand that new generations must pay for decades for the mistakes of their parents. The Greeks have, without a doubt, made big mistakes. Until 2009, the government in Athens forged its books. But despite this, the younger generation of Greeks carries no more responsibility for the mistakes of its elders than the younger generation of Germans did in the 1950s and 1960s." Agree with your point. While the quote does have some merit, Germany had bottom up drastic structural change forced upon it before the "youth" were excused.
- ubernostrum 11y agoHowever, the Greeks must realize a compromise consists of a give and take. OK, how much more would you like them to give? Another 20% of GDP? 30%? 40%? 50%? Since it's apparent that the goal is to squeeze blood from a stone, just how much blood would satisfy you?
- tomp 11y ago> Do people blame Germany for France's greed? I mean it is pretty evident that the growth of Nazis in Germany came directly from what the Allies levied on Germany. It's also pretty evident that the rise of Syriza and Golden Dawn in Greece came directly from what the EU levied on the Greek people.