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>And yet the extremely wealthy do face an abiding risk from festering inequity: The have-nots might finally lose patience and turn upon the haves. “That’s the r
by Chevalier 11y ago
>And yet the extremely wealthy do face an abiding risk from festering inequity: The have-nots might finally lose patience and turn upon the haves. “That’s the real danger,” Mr. Cohan said. “This little thing called the French Revolution.”
Yeah... I keep hearing this threat from people who really ought to know better. Inequality is a major talking point from the left, but it reflects complete ignorance of how the world works.
The French Revolution is memorable precisely because it's so incredibly unusual. Look at Mexico, India, China... almost anywhere in the world aside from Europe and North America. There is virtually no society on the planet that doesn't concentrate wealth and power among the elite one percent, gated off from the lower classes. I'm not even speaking historically -- show me a modern country on any other continent that even remotely approaches a middle class.
Also, re-distributing wealth doesn't necessarily solve the cultural problems that create inequality. Egypt massively subsidized food... and Egyptians promptly had massive numbers of children that overwhelmed even the ridiculously cheap food prices. Just this week, Afghanis threw acid in the faces of schoolgirls trying to get an education. The Saudis cling to power through massive welfare programs to pacify their increasingly fundamentalist populace. Even here in the US, cultures that discourage education and responsibility aren't suddenly going to churn out engineers and doctors if billionaires give away their wealth.
The US will just continue down the well-trodden path that the rest of the world has already blazed, where tiny pockets of wealthy elites try to shelter themselves from the increasingly lawless masses. A revolution requires organization and discipline, which is absurd to expect even before you consider the unbeatable modern surveillance of all communications and movements in developed countries. The only threat that masses pose is lawless violence, much like what we saw in the Arab Spring -- but that's not really a problem when you can concentrate the rabble outside of elite pockets. Particularly when the rabble lack a unifying religious fervor, like what you see in the coalescing identity of fundamentalist Islam across MENA and Europe.
So please stop making vague threats about the French Revolution, people. The Second Amendment is not going to help rednecks water the tree of liberty. The people are not going to surge against their capitalist oppressors as a tide of justice or whatever. At worst, less developed countries will turn into Libya... but the more likely result is India, where elites gate off the masses and let them cultivate self-destructive cultures.
- angrybits 11y ago> rednecks Is that really necessary? You could replace that with any other class/race/cultural group and you would be banned in seconds. It needs to stop, and surely HN is a progressive enough place to help begin that process.
- Chevalier 11y agoI'm not sure that "redneck" qualifies as a racial slur, nor that we should never have words that describe different cultural groups. But fair enough. What term would you prefer we use for generally uneducated, reactionary populations that infamously believe their personal arsenals will be used to overthrow a tyrannous federal government and establish socially conservative concepts of personal liberty? This belief in revolution certainly isn't limited to conservative reactionaries (and I mocked leftists in the next sentence), but I'm not sure it's that productive to start a tangent of personal offense rather than address the questionable idea of armed revolution.
- hga 11y agoWhat term would you prefer we use for generally uneducated, reactionary populations that infamously believe their personal arsenals will be used to overthrow a tyrannous federal government and establish socially conservative concepts of personal liberty? How about "strawmen"?
- Chevalier 11y ago...so we've gone from debating which word we should use to describe conservative reactionaries to the denial that they even exist. I'm honestly kind of impressed.
- hga 11y agoDenial of your caricature of "conservative reactionaries", most certainly. Wherever you stand on all this, having a clear view of the various parties is essential.