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Being greek in the same age group I dare to say that what you support is a blatant and dangerously ignorant lie. There are tons of people that have law or engin

Being greek in the same age group I dare to say that what you support is a blatant and dangerously ignorant lie. There are tons of people that have law or engineering degrees and would be grateful for a supermarket cashier job or flipping burgers. There is a serious problem with greek young people, they are basically a burnt generation, doomed to either chronic unemployment, ridiculously low-paying jobs (<500 euro/mo), or emigration, so I find your assertion deeply insulting. I'm getting tired of the "lazy, tax-evading, early retiring greeks" mantra being repeated everywhere. I expect generalisations from reddit, but I expected something better from HN.

jensen123 11y ago
I don't know about young people, but I heard that until recently the normal retirement age in Greece was 62. Isn't this true?
revanx_ 11y ago
The problem of young people with academic degrees that can't find a job is not a problem isolated to Greece, this is happening everywhere. As far as your comments, all I can say is that I shaped my opinion based on statistics and what other greeks told me. You can't deny the fact that in the last decade, greeks have become accustomed to a certain life style that can no longer be maintained.
- kylebrown 11y ago
  > You can't deny the fact that in the last decade, greeks have become accustomed to a certain life style that can no longer be maintained. The point of the article is that the 'moral hazard' of lending and borrowing cuts both ways. What about the lifestyle of European bankers & elites? The lifestyle of elites was funded by their reckless lending, buying up "idiot paper" left and right (not just Greece). They believe themselves entitled to collect high-interest rents regardless of the risk which is priced into the interest rate! To stretch an analogy, it'd be like Venture Capitalists blaming the startups for failing to earn returns on their investments.Rather than take responsibility for making risky investments, they demonize startup founders and employees, and threaten to break their legs until they pay back the firm. Its "loan-shark theatre" between governments and central banks, with politicians stoking nationalist sentiment and stereotypes (as politicians do) in the service of elites (i.e. the creditors). Maybe you should read the article, instead of asserting "undeniable facts" (p.s. the greek economy has been in a worsening great depression for the last decade; and your handful of gamer acquaintances are a non-representative sample).

jensen123 11y ago

I don't know about young people, but I heard that until recently the normal retirement age in Greece was 62. Isn't this true?

revanx_ 11y ago

The problem of young people with academic degrees that can't find a job is not a problem isolated to Greece, this is happening everywhere. As far as your comments, all I can say is that I shaped my opinion based on statistics and what other greeks told me. You can't deny the fact that in the last decade, greeks have become accustomed to a certain life style that can no longer be maintained.

kylebrown 11y ago
> You can't deny the fact that in the last decade, greeks have become accustomed to a certain life style that can no longer be maintained. The point of the article is that the 'moral hazard' of lending and borrowing cuts both ways. What about the lifestyle of European bankers & elites? The lifestyle of elites was funded by their reckless lending, buying up "idiot paper" left and right (not just Greece). They believe themselves entitled to collect high-interest rents regardless of the risk which is priced into the interest rate! To stretch an analogy, it'd be like Venture Capitalists blaming the startups for failing to earn returns on their investments.Rather than take responsibility for making risky investments, they demonize startup founders and employees, and threaten to break their legs until they pay back the firm. Its "loan-shark theatre" between governments and central banks, with politicians stoking nationalist sentiment and stereotypes (as politicians do) in the service of elites (i.e. the creditors). Maybe you should read the article, instead of asserting "undeniable facts" (p.s. the greek economy has been in a worsening great depression for the last decade; and your handful of gamer acquaintances are a non-representative sample).