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Apple Open Source Site
- jdkanani 11y agoBeing famous for its designs, Apple should have redesign this site. I am not good at UI/UX, but this looks ugly.
- bitmapbrother 11y agoJony Ive doesn't do HTML
- steckerbrett 11y agoThis is amongst the least ugly of Apples non-consumer facing sites, some of the portals still have pinstripes from the 10.1 days.
- pcr0 11y agoIt's just outdated. The color scheme, skeuomorphism and use of Lucida Grande suggests it was designed a couple years back. The CSS text shadows in the headers is just plain annoying though
- ytch 11y agoAnd the bottom line: Copyright © '''2012''' Apple Inc. All rights reserved.
- peeyek 11y agoNewest version are available here https://developer.apple.com/opensource/ https://developer.apple.com/opensource/
- voltagex_ 11y agohttp://www.opensource.apple.com/release/os-x-10101/ http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/os-x-10101/ How much is missing from that list that would be needed for OpenDarwin to work again?
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- teacup50 11y agoLots. More and more stuff has been disappearing, too -- usually as part of a rewrite that moves the functionality out of the existing open source project.
- mdaniel 11y ago[I'm going to apologize in advance for the chaos of this comment; there's a lot of moving parts and - as the expression goes - sorry this is so long, I didn't have time to make it shorter. And holy fuck I wish HN had a markup language with more than 3 modes] Funny you should mention that, as I just had a scratch at it this weekend. Although OpenDarwin has ceased operations as of 2004 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_%28operating_system%29#OpenDarwin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_%28operating_system%29#...), the PureDarwin project has some flickering signs of life but just barely: http://www.puredarwin.org/ http://www.puredarwin.org/ and https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/puredarwin https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/puredarwi... While I was roaming around trying to see if anyone was trying to get such a beast to run in modern VirtualBox setups, I discovered that Apple used to publish ISOs of Darwin (https://opensource.apple.com/static/iso/ https://opensource.apple.com/static/iso/) but I was not lucky enough to have the CD boot in VBox, and I didn't get very far with qemu, either: http://althenia.net/notes/darwin http://althenia.net/notes/darwin My interest is almost solely in getting PureDarwin up and running in Vagrant/VBox with some networking support, so making headless OSX build boxes will stop being a ginormous technical and licensing clusterfuck. I have a mild interest in ReactOS for the same end game, but at this moment I will benefit from OSX toys more. Probably our best shot is to tag along on the coattails of the development that goes into making the hackintoshes run and support crazy hardware. Separately, Catherine (of opensn0w fame) is porting XNU to ARM https://github.com/darwin-on-arm/xnu https://github.com/darwin-on-arm/xnu and https://github.com/darwin-on-arm/wiki/wiki/Building-Darwin https://github.com/darwin-on-arm/wiki/wiki/Building-Darwin so that should be interesting, too, in a qemu kind of way. If nothing else, at least the kernel is receiving some attention outside of Infinite Loop.
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- doubtNever 11y agoThey just killed every working, apple based program on 10.5.9 I'm stuck. No browser works. Won't update, and all their shit just crashes upon open... Happened in the span of three days.
- oldgun 11y agoSo what's the purpose of this site? To attract learners and contributors? To build a better source code browsing system? To build an open-source ecosystem? To promote the spirit of open-source softwares? The half-assed design of the webpage indicates that Apple is probably not paying attention to it at all. So what's the purpose of this site exactly?
- ekianjo 11y agoIsn't that obvious? To release the modified code used in some of the Free Software packages they use for their devices. It's a requirement.
- 4ad 11y agoNo, most of the source released is not under a virulent license. They are not required to provide it. Edit: oh wow, downvoted for stating objective facts that take seconds to verify.
- icebraining 11y agoI didn't downvote you, but the use of "virulent" instead of "copyleft" is annoying and imprecise.
- 4ad 11y agoViral licensing is a standard, established, and widely used term, which also has the property of using real words rather than invented neologisms which have imprecise and incorrect definitions (from POV of real-world usage in OSS) in dictionaries: http://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/buzzword/entries/copyleft.html http://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/buzzword/entries/copyl... Inventing new words for concepts properly described by old words is what's annoying, and it's really imprecise when people outside the specialized field start to have different opinions about what the neologisms mean than the people inside the field who actually use them.
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- stinos 11y agoThis is rather interesting, and raises a lot of questions for me: does this site exist for a long time already, or is it some kind of response to Microsoft putting tons of projects on github since last year (IIRC), or what is the reason this is on HN now? Anyone knows whether the downloads of 'standard' software like git/clang are pathed versions or the original? Why would they not have used github or similar? Internally they likely do use version control anyway.
- Manishearth 11y agoI think it's been around for a while. Most of the things on that site are non-Apple-owned open source software. (Stuff shows up on HN randomly)
- wingerlang 11y agoFrom this site it seems to be at least 15 years old: https://web.archive.org/web/20000701000000*/http://www.opensource.apple.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20000701000000*/http://www.opens...
- frewsxcv 11y agoThere's nothing new about this page, other than software updates. It's been around for years. I don't know why it's getting posted.
- mdaniel 11y agoThere are plenty of reposts that make it on the front page, and they were expressly ok-ed in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html It got posted for the same reason anything gets posted: someone thought it was interesting, and it was upvoted to the front page because others thought it was interesting, too. Plus, Sunday. IMHO, the community benefits far more from folks weighing in with their opinions or discoveries or complaints in the comments than the actual link itself.
- codezero 11y agoBummed there is no real ability to contribute. Or if there is, I'd love to hear more. I found a bug in an xnu syscall, submitted it and the fix to bugreports.apple.com a year ago and I don't even know if anyone has seen it.
- peeyek 11y agoResearchKit and more https://developer.apple.com/opensource/ https://developer.apple.com/opensource/
- MakeMake 11y agoThe sources from 10.10.2 to 10.10.4 are missing. Is this somehow a preparation for the upcoming T(T)IP? Is the source still accessible for security firms?
- comex 11y agoNope. Apple is just extremely tardy in general about releasing source; this has been the case for years. edit: this even applies to LGPL stuff under the iOS umbrella. The latest version of WebCore available is from iOS 6.1.3; iOS is now on 8.4. I made an explicit request some time ago for the source corresponding to 7.x and 8.0, and after a while got 7.x (apparently they nevertheless haven't bothered to publish it on this site), but IIRC I never got 8.x. Need to check.
- dev-da0 11y agoUsually about a month or two. A radar and/or email can help.
- sscarduzio 11y agoStill no trace of Swift. Yawn.
- supercoder 11y agoI love Apple's great contribution to Open Source.