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they actually advocate disassembling the wall plug and cutting hot leads while the building wiring is still live. Isn't that kind of the point? How else would

they actually advocate disassembling the wall plug and cutting hot leads while the building wiring is still live. Isn't that kind of the point? How else would you do it?

noonespecial 17y ago
Maybe you just shouldn't do it at all? Edit: On downvote. No, I'm serious, sometimes you just shouldn't do some things despite the technical possibility because they can't be done safely in a practical real-world setting. There's probably very few ways to ride an elephant to the airport as well, but a taxi might be a better choice. Now I'll admit that I can't think of a better way to "seize a running computer" off the top of my head but ripping open the wall and hacking at live wires just doesn't strike me as the very best way. Lets be sure we're not riding elephants here.
- russss 17y ago
  It is perfectly possible to do safe work on live wiring, although health and safety regulations generally require that this is done only as a last resort. It does occur quite regularly, though, and as long as it's done properly the risk is minimal. Considering government usually has an exemption clause to health and safety anyway, I don't think the FBI are going to be worrying about it that much.
  - yardie 17y ago
    Can you name one common instance of where working on live wires is done quite regularly. I'm not talking about the guys flying around in helicopters inspecting HV lines. Firemen don't even do that. They go straight to the breaker and kill it for the building. So where else is handling live wiring done. I'm honestly curious.
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    - russss 17y ago
      Adding new breakers is one situation where live working happens quite a lot in a commercial setting. Power companies use a whole range of live working - the guys in helicopters are a minority, but there's a lot more mundane stuff done live: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live-line_working http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live-line_working
skalpelis 17y ago
Actually, couldn't you cut into the power cable instead of the wall plug?

they actually advocate disassembling the wall plug and cutting hot leads while the building wiring is still live. Isn't that kind of the point? How else would you do it?

noonespecial 17y ago

Maybe you just shouldn't do it at all? Edit: On downvote. No, I'm serious, sometimes you just shouldn't do some things despite the technical possibility because they can't be done safely in a practical real-world setting. There's probably very few ways to ride an elephant to the airport as well, but a taxi might be a better choice. Now I'll admit that I can't think of a better way to "seize a running computer" off the top of my head but ripping open the wall and hacking at live wires just doesn't strike me as the very best way. Lets be sure we're not riding elephants here.

russss 17y ago
It is perfectly possible to do safe work on live wiring, although health and safety regulations generally require that this is done only as a last resort. It does occur quite regularly, though, and as long as it's done properly the risk is minimal. Considering government usually has an exemption clause to health and safety anyway, I don't think the FBI are going to be worrying about it that much.
- yardie 17y ago
  Can you name one common instance of where working on live wires is done quite regularly. I'm not talking about the guys flying around in helicopters inspecting HV lines. Firemen don't even do that. They go straight to the breaker and kill it for the building. So where else is handling live wiring done. I'm honestly curious.
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  - russss 17y ago
    Adding new breakers is one situation where live working happens quite a lot in a commercial setting. Power companies use a whole range of live working - the guys in helicopters are a minority, but there's a lot more mundane stuff done live: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live-line_working http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live-line_working

skalpelis 17y ago

Actually, couldn't you cut into the power cable instead of the wall plug?