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This website is awful. Took forever to load, and when it did I couldn't scroll until some weird stuff had loaded. This article just feels like a fluff piece or

by veb 11y ago

This website is awful. Took forever to load, and when it did I couldn't scroll until some weird stuff had loaded. This article just feels like a fluff piece or something. They're all "Sorry. We'll learn from our mistakes... just look, the mods set the big subreddits public again!". I have an inkling that a similar situation happened years back between AMA and admins. (correct me if I'm wrong) For people whose lives revolve around Reddit, I was completely lost for words when I saw this: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riama_set_to_private_over_mod_firing/csqg24d?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riam... (kn0thing is Alexis Ohanian) all I could wonder was whether he'd not realised how serious things actually were, or whether he simply didn't care -- I felt those comments were adding a hell of a lot more fuel to an already raging inferno. I also haven't really seen much in the way of... an explanation from them. Just, "Sorry. We'll do better. We'll even... set up an email contact!!" that's not exactly much.

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bostonpete 11y ago
What kind of an explanation are they expected to give for a termination? Any details would typically be kept private. I've been reading this saga all day and can't figure out what they did wrong, unless you factor in speculation about the reasons for termination, which of course portrays Reddit in a bad light, but even then they don't come off looking evil, just a bit tone deaf to the mods (who collectively strike me as a pretty entitled bunch)
- jabv 11y ago
  Not just typically kept private - by exposing the reasons for a termination, they could be liable for pretty serious damages. I have no horse in this race, but expecting an explanation for the dismissal is pretty short-sighted.
  - veb 11y ago
    You say that but I wonder if you remember/know of this incident? https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2iea97/i_am_a_former_reddit_employee_ama/cl1ygat?context=3 https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2iea97/i_am_a_former_r... So the good thing is, they've learned not to do that again, obviously. However, by explanation, I definitely don't mean why Victoria was let go, but how the hell they dropped the ball big time? She was obviously a very important, yet vital figure on Reddit as per the community themselves so how did the decision to terminate her not factor in the whole "We need to make sure we've got a replacement immediately/let people know what we're doing to minimise this" (or even better, not have such a big part of the community riding on just one pair of shoulders! bottleneck much?) The most telling is from /r/books I think, where the mods are freaking out because they've got half a dozen mostly famous book authors showing up to do an AMA soon, and they have absolutely _no_ idea how to get in touch with them/their agents. This sucks a lot for those people who're helping that subreddit, voluntarily etc. To be stranded like that, is a pretty crappy situation to be in -- especially considering how Reddit needs them, and needs the content produced by the authors/AMA/questions etc. Apology template: "Hey Reddit, we're really sorry for dropping the ball with this whole incident, really! Don't kill us! We've realised that we handled this all wrong, and most of all we're stupid for not listening to the moderators of the bigger subreddits! We'd like to say sorry again. Tomorrow, we'll have our new blog post up, detailing our plan for Talent Director(s), and Community Subreddit Director who'll be in charge of helping fulfil your moderator dreams!" Heh, but seriously -- I am surprised they're not 'catering' to their audience (even if they're carrying pitch forks). I'm not sure I'd recommend my apology letter though, but has to be better than "Sorry. Anyway, those big subreddits are back. I promise we didn't blackmail anyone" (not saying they did...)

by veb 11y ago

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bostonpete 11y ago

What kind of an explanation are they expected to give for a termination? Any details would typically be kept private. I've been reading this saga all day and can't figure out what they did wrong, unless you factor in speculation about the reasons for termination, which of course portrays Reddit in a bad light, but even then they don't come off looking evil, just a bit tone deaf to the mods (who collectively strike me as a pretty entitled bunch)

jabv 11y ago
Not just typically kept private - by exposing the reasons for a termination, they could be liable for pretty serious damages. I have no horse in this race, but expecting an explanation for the dismissal is pretty short-sighted.
- veb 11y ago
  You say that but I wonder if you remember/know of this incident? https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2iea97/i_am_a_former_reddit_employee_ama/cl1ygat?context=3 https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2iea97/i_am_a_former_r... So the good thing is, they've learned not to do that again, obviously. However, by explanation, I definitely don't mean why Victoria was let go, but how the hell they dropped the ball big time? She was obviously a very important, yet vital figure on Reddit as per the community themselves so how did the decision to terminate her not factor in the whole "We need to make sure we've got a replacement immediately/let people know what we're doing to minimise this" (or even better, not have such a big part of the community riding on just one pair of shoulders! bottleneck much?) The most telling is from /r/books I think, where the mods are freaking out because they've got half a dozen mostly famous book authors showing up to do an AMA soon, and they have absolutely _no_ idea how to get in touch with them/their agents. This sucks a lot for those people who're helping that subreddit, voluntarily etc. To be stranded like that, is a pretty crappy situation to be in -- especially considering how Reddit needs them, and needs the content produced by the authors/AMA/questions etc. Apology template: "Hey Reddit, we're really sorry for dropping the ball with this whole incident, really! Don't kill us! We've realised that we handled this all wrong, and most of all we're stupid for not listening to the moderators of the bigger subreddits! We'd like to say sorry again. Tomorrow, we'll have our new blog post up, detailing our plan for Talent Director(s), and Community Subreddit Director who'll be in charge of helping fulfil your moderator dreams!" Heh, but seriously -- I am surprised they're not 'catering' to their audience (even if they're carrying pitch forks). I'm not sure I'd recommend my apology letter though, but has to be better than "Sorry. Anyway, those big subreddits are back. I promise we didn't blackmail anyone" (not saying they did...)