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Just because you believe it should be on the front page is not a justification for posting duplicates I think it is, actually. I've seen stories take three or
by ScottBurson 11y ago
Just because you believe it should be on the front page is not a justification for posting duplicates
I think it is, actually. I've seen stories take three or four tries to hit the front page -- at which point they get quite a lot of attention; there's no doubt they were HN material.
I think all frequent HN readers should contribute some time curating new stories -- don't spend all your time on the front page. If more people did this, maybe good stories wouldn't need multiple postings so often -- making the front page would be less accidental.
- iLoch 11y agoIndeed. I'd like to see a split view on the home page - top articles on the left, new on the right. Probably bad UX but often times I come here and look at what's directly in my line of sight - clicking on a different section of the site is usually not my primary use case on HN.
- mistermann 11y ago> I think all frequent HN readers should contribute some time curating new stories I might do this if there were separate buttons for "upvote" and "save". As it is, I don't want to pollute my saved page with excess bulk.
- dang 11y agoWe're open to decoupling 'upvote' from 'save', but what would the interface for 'save' be? I'm loath to just keep adding links for everything.
- maxerickson 11y agoForget buttons on the saved stories page? It would be nice to be able to forget saved comments too.
- dang 11y agoClever. But you'd still have to upvote something in order to save it, and people we hear from about this mostly want the two decoupled.
- waterlesscloud 11y agoI don't care about comments, but I'm definitely in favor of saving and upvoting being different for stories. Each story on New already has 4 or 5 links, depending on how you count. What's one more?
- dang 11y ago> What's one more? The path to perdition.
- ScottBurson 11y agoI think separate buttons would be nice. The set of stories and comments I want to be able to refer back to is a relatively small fraction of the set I want to upvote. Of course it also means another database table, or equivalent, in the back end.
- dang 11y agoIt's not hard to save the data. What I don't see yet is a good interface for it. We're not going to pile on links for each new feature—that's obviously wrong for HN. Edit: I have an idea. We could add a 'save' link, but only at the top of a story or comment's individual /item page. To save a story or comment, you'd click on its timestamp to go to its individual page, then click 'save'. This is exactly how comment flagging works now. It would add no complexity to story pages and very little to thread pages.
- krapp 11y agoBy that rationale, you can make Hacker News better by removing voting altogether. Get rid of those two arrows and the needless complexity of karma. Only you can save us from ourselves, dang.
- DanBC 11y agoWhy don't people use bookmarks anymore?
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- mistermann 11y agoI don't know, if you're worried about clutter, leave upvote as an arrow and everything else in a "Actions" dropdown. It's really unfortunate they're not seperate - just now I "saved" a comment I KNOW I'll want to refer to later...went to my "saved" comments page and it's FULL (of everything I've ever upvoted obviously - I just now clued in that that's how you "save" a comment, although I already knew for articles).