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Can HN not get caught up in the drama of reddit? Please. (Btw, instead of just down voting because you disagree, how about you try to discuss why you think bein

Can HN not get caught up in the drama of reddit? Please. (Btw, instead of just down voting because you disagree, how about you try to discuss why you think being caught up in the drama is a good thing)

dang 11y ago
What's going on at Reddit right now is a significant story, plus HN and Reddit have a long history together (indeed, a common origin). So it's appropriate for the story to be on HN, and it has been: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9822580 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9822580. When it comes to pile-on stories, though, you're right. You're also right that the topic should be discussed here in a substantive way. Generally, any time there's a frenzy of copycat stories, the approach that works best for HN is (a) to settle on (hopefully) the most substantive version of the story for discussion, (b) downweight the follow-ups, and (c) have a new thread if significant new information arises. I don't think the current story passes that last test, though it's perhaps interesting how people are seizing on it.
- heimatau 11y ago
  This submission isn't contributing to the understanding of the drama. Instead, it's getting caught up in the emotional and herd mentality.
  - dang 11y ago
    My comment agrees with you about this particular submission. I probably should have made that clearer. Btw, the HN rules ask you not to complain about downvotes in comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
    - heimatau 11y ago
      You are correct. I thought the guidelines encouraged discussion instead of down voting but...upon looking at the guidelines, I was wrong. Also, I don't mind the down votes, all I did was ask others to discuss more instead of clicking a simple down vote link. Many can down vote but how many can have a conversation?
dominotw 11y ago
No. This is one of the most significant events on the internet today . A first of its kind social phenomenon. This needs to be analyzed like everything else.
- oldmanjay 11y ago
  it's only first of its kind in a kindred sense to the way many patents were granted by doing an existing process on a computer. protests are not new. the differences here are details. I still find it interesting, though
- heimatau 11y ago
  Getting caught up in the drama won't add any value to the adolescence nature of reddit. We could posts analysis talking about the details regarding the matters at hand. But this submission is adding fuel to the fire of childish behavior.
  - dominotw 11y ago
    >Getting caught up in the drama > childish behavior You are the one who seems to be caught up on the drama by taking sides .
    - heimatau 11y ago
      No. This submission is clearly smearing one side, the CEO of reddit. This submission is not showing a balanced view of anything. I'm not taking her side nor am I taking the accuser's side. Both are being very emotional and I'd hope that instead of being emotional and pointing fingers, that we'd be a little more mature in the HN community.
forgotpasswd3x 11y ago
Nobody is making you click on the submission or view the comments. If this isn't what you want to see on HN, then vote or flag the article, as usual.
- heimatau 11y ago
  True but I wanted to voice my opinion regarding the submission and the potential dramatic nature that HN could get 'caught up in'. I've been going to HN for about two years now only been a member for a short bit. I want to make my vote. That is all and hopefully communicate with others about it. For the record, I didn't down vote nor flag this but it seems enough of the community did therefore it fell off the front page.
  - yawaramin 11y ago
    A downvote is the voice of your opinion. If you don't have the ability to downvote, well, that should tell you something about whether HN wants your opinion.
    - studentrob 11y ago
      Speaking of the ability to downvote, I've been here over five years and don't have that (@ 81 points). I realize this is correctable and it's on me to comment more, but your comment made me want to add.. I do not participate often because I do not have the ability to contribute my opinion when I want to downvote, and then I get turned off from the discussion thread. Voting is an easy way to keep comment sections concise while allowing everyone to participate. I appreciate concise threads because I'm an engineer and don't want to spend all day rereading the same thoughts in different voices. In short, I want to downvote, I can't, and then I just stop reading and close the thread. I would be happy if I could just push the down arrow and have it contribute, say, negative .2 points, or some amount scaled according to my current points status. I doubt anyone cares enough about users on HN to make such a change, but maybe someone will see this and incorporate it on some future comments board. Thanks for reading.
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dang 11y ago

What's going on at Reddit right now is a significant story, plus HN and Reddit have a long history together (indeed, a common origin). So it's appropriate for the story to be on HN, and it has been: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9822580 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9822580. When it comes to pile-on stories, though, you're right. You're also right that the topic should be discussed here in a substantive way. Generally, any time there's a frenzy of copycat stories, the approach that works best for HN is (a) to settle on (hopefully) the most substantive version of the story for discussion, (b) downweight the follow-ups, and (c) have a new thread if significant new information arises. I don't think the current story passes that last test, though it's perhaps interesting how people are seizing on it.

heimatau 11y ago
This submission isn't contributing to the understanding of the drama. Instead, it's getting caught up in the emotional and herd mentality.
- dang 11y ago
  My comment agrees with you about this particular submission. I probably should have made that clearer. Btw, the HN rules ask you not to complain about downvotes in comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
  - heimatau 11y ago
    You are correct. I thought the guidelines encouraged discussion instead of down voting but...upon looking at the guidelines, I was wrong. Also, I don't mind the down votes, all I did was ask others to discuss more instead of clicking a simple down vote link. Many can down vote but how many can have a conversation?

dominotw 11y ago

No. This is one of the most significant events on the internet today . A first of its kind social phenomenon. This needs to be analyzed like everything else.

oldmanjay 11y ago
it's only first of its kind in a kindred sense to the way many patents were granted by doing an existing process on a computer. protests are not new. the differences here are details. I still find it interesting, though
heimatau 11y ago
Getting caught up in the drama won't add any value to the adolescence nature of reddit. We could posts analysis talking about the details regarding the matters at hand. But this submission is adding fuel to the fire of childish behavior.
- dominotw 11y ago
  >Getting caught up in the drama > childish behavior You are the one who seems to be caught up on the drama by taking sides .
  - heimatau 11y ago
    No. This submission is clearly smearing one side, the CEO of reddit. This submission is not showing a balanced view of anything. I'm not taking her side nor am I taking the accuser's side. Both are being very emotional and I'd hope that instead of being emotional and pointing fingers, that we'd be a little more mature in the HN community.

forgotpasswd3x 11y ago

Nobody is making you click on the submission or view the comments. If this isn't what you want to see on HN, then vote or flag the article, as usual.

heimatau 11y ago
True but I wanted to voice my opinion regarding the submission and the potential dramatic nature that HN could get 'caught up in'. I've been going to HN for about two years now only been a member for a short bit. I want to make my vote. That is all and hopefully communicate with others about it. For the record, I didn't down vote nor flag this but it seems enough of the community did therefore it fell off the front page.
- yawaramin 11y ago
  A downvote is the voice of your opinion. If you don't have the ability to downvote, well, that should tell you something about whether HN wants your opinion.
  - studentrob 11y ago
    Speaking of the ability to downvote, I've been here over five years and don't have that (@ 81 points). I realize this is correctable and it's on me to comment more, but your comment made me want to add.. I do not participate often because I do not have the ability to contribute my opinion when I want to downvote, and then I get turned off from the discussion thread. Voting is an easy way to keep comment sections concise while allowing everyone to participate. I appreciate concise threads because I'm an engineer and don't want to spend all day rereading the same thoughts in different voices. In short, I want to downvote, I can't, and then I just stop reading and close the thread. I would be happy if I could just push the down arrow and have it contribute, say, negative .2 points, or some amount scaled according to my current points status. I doubt anyone cares enough about users on HN to make such a change, but maybe someone will see this and incorporate it on some future comments board. Thanks for reading.

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