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For those who want a TLDR : UberPOP is LEGAL in France, nobody has shut down UberPOP. HOWEVER : - A driver who wants to drive for UberPOP can do that, BUT it

by aikah 11y ago

For those who want a TLDR : UberPOP is LEGAL in France, nobody has shut down UberPOP. HOWEVER : - A driver who wants to drive for UberPOP can do that, BUT it has to follow the french laws which means: paying a specific amount of taxes on their revenue, getting a 250 hours training, paying for a specific insurance Of course, driving legally for UberPOP in France IS NOT PROFITABLE at all. Uber can't have it both ways. It cannot fix prices for rides and expect legal drivers to work and make a profit with these prices. Other services such as private limousines can continue, they are legal, as long as drivers operate legally. UberPOP business model cannot work in France. But they are free to provide and distribute their app. The app is legal.

stefantalpalaru 11y ago
Do the drivers also need taxi licenses? They don't release them any more, so the only way to get one is to buy it for 6 figures on the gray market from a licensed driver wanting to retire (in theory it can't be sold, but there are workarounds and loopholes).
- johnchristopher 11y ago
  What is supposed to happen to the license once the driver retires ? Put back into use ? Is the driver getting a refund on the license ?
- seren 11y ago
  No need of a taxi license, "car rental with Chauffeur" is legal, and has existed for ages. The only difference with a taxi is that you are supposed to book them in advance, and you can't just hail them. (And their might be some other restrictions around airport or something..) But if you hire a chauffeur (with his car), he needs to have the proper insurance to cover him and its passenger. Uber drivers actually must and have subscribed to them. The issue with Uberpop is that most of its drivers don't have subscribed to that special insurance, and as a results are pushing the cost to everyone else. As a regular driver, I would be quite unhappy if there was like 50k+ plus Uberpop driving all day long full of passengers, and if they were paying the same amount of money than an occasional driver, while being much more likely to have costly crashes. Hence the reason to require that UberPop drivers have a proper transportation insurance in the first place. Aside of any fairness, or legacy medallion system consideration, it is just a bad idea economically to have everyone paying higher insurance costs so that UberPop can reap all the benefits...

by aikah 11y ago

stefantalpalaru 11y ago

Do the drivers also need taxi licenses? They don't release them any more, so the only way to get one is to buy it for 6 figures on the gray market from a licensed driver wanting to retire (in theory it can't be sold, but there are workarounds and loopholes).

johnchristopher 11y ago
What is supposed to happen to the license once the driver retires ? Put back into use ? Is the driver getting a refund on the license ?
seren 11y ago
No need of a taxi license, "car rental with Chauffeur" is legal, and has existed for ages. The only difference with a taxi is that you are supposed to book them in advance, and you can't just hail them. (And their might be some other restrictions around airport or something..) But if you hire a chauffeur (with his car), he needs to have the proper insurance to cover him and its passenger. Uber drivers actually must and have subscribed to them. The issue with Uberpop is that most of its drivers don't have subscribed to that special insurance, and as a results are pushing the cost to everyone else. As a regular driver, I would be quite unhappy if there was like 50k+ plus Uberpop driving all day long full of passengers, and if they were paying the same amount of money than an occasional driver, while being much more likely to have costly crashes. Hence the reason to require that UberPop drivers have a proper transportation insurance in the first place. Aside of any fairness, or legacy medallion system consideration, it is just a bad idea economically to have everyone paying higher insurance costs so that UberPop can reap all the benefits...