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The "Apple is not dominant" retort is very correct but also very frustrating. Apple is dominant in the sense that they command an outsize portion of developer/
by skc 11y ago
The "Apple is not dominant" retort is very correct but also very frustrating.
Apple is dominant in the sense that they command an outsize portion of developer/consumer mindshare. So issues like this just get drowned out in all the fawning.
- madeofpalk 11y agoUnfortunately Judges wouldn't agree that 'iPhone users' are their own market and agree that Apple has a massive market share which their abusing.
- mseebach 11y agoBecause if they did, "Tide users" and "Ford owners" would be their own markets too which would mean that all brands would be monopolists by default. You don't get to throw anti-trust at Apple because you can't be bothered to switch to a different type of smartphone, just like you can't throw anti-trust at Ford because you don't want to drive a Chevy. The notion is absurd.
- wolfgke 11y ago> Because if they did, "Tide users" and "Ford owners" would be their own markets too which would mean that all brands would be monopolists by default. Which could (in a formal logic, not juristic logic, sense) lead to an argument why anybody should be allowed to install any software they want on their devices - a demand that I, as a hacker, fully support.
- venomsnake 11y agoI can change anything on my ford as long as the resulting vehicle is road legal.
- randomdata 11y agoWhat does Ford do differently with respect to software on their, say, entertainment system or ECU computers that Apple doesn't do with their iOS devices to allow you to draw this distinction?
- venomsnake 11y agoYou can easily replace the ECU of the car.
- randomdata 11y agoMeaning that you can easily replace an entire computer system with another entirely different computer system? What stops you from doing the same with your iPhone? (i.e. buying, say, an Android device)
- x0054 11y agoHave you personally ever done so? I have, and it ain't so easy, especially if you are not just swapping in a piggyback system, but actually installing a whole new ECU.
- madeofpalk 11y agoIs Ford violating anti-trust law by not letting you change the software (GSP app, for example) that runs on their dash system?
- mseebach 11y agoNot without voiding the warranty. Incidentally, the exact same thing is true of the iPhone.
- chrisseaton 11y agoDo you think it's right to expect someone to warrant something with work after you have modified it beyond how it has been designed to be modified?
- madeofpalk 11y agoYup. I agree with you 100%. This discussion was brought up earlier this week on HN and someone mentioned how Samsung can't get in trouble for anti-trust because you can't install an alternate browser on their TVs.