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http://time.com/3904431/ellen-pao-appeal-sexism-case/ http://time.com/3904431/ellen-pao-appeal-sexism-case/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Fletcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Fletcher

zobzu 11y ago
I work in the silicon valley and I got quite a few promotion offers denied because I'm a white male and that's not promoting diversity. Heck, I didn't even mind it so much as long as the other candidates are +- qualified. But by that logic, I guess I should sue! ;-) Oh wait...
- istvan__ 11y ago
  It kind of funny how people turn their heads away about this situation. Anyways, I just finished reading the Fortune article from 2012 and it has more color to the story. http://fortune.com/2012/10/25/ellen-pao-buddy-fletcher/ http://fortune.com/2012/10/25/ellen-pao-buddy-fletcher/ I am wondering how long it takes to destroy reddit entirely.
- DanBC 11y ago
  If you have evidence that people did not hire / promote you because you are white you should totally sue. Perhaps your recent experience has opened your eyes to the difficulties black people have had for very many years. It is hard to get evidence of discrimination; that makes it hard to bring and win a case; lack of won cases is used as evidence of a lack of discrimination. Edit: added promote
  - istvan__ 11y ago
    He did not mention hiring anywhere in his comment. Can you actually reply to him instead of giving words into his mouth?
    - DanBC 11y ago
      Adding the single word promote makes the post entirely an on-topic reply to what he said - white men are not discriminated against "because diversity"; and if they are the exact same legal recourse used by protected classes is open to them. But since you think I didn't answer their post: what do you think they were talking about? Do you think that "promotion" is somehow not part of "recruitment and selection"?
      - istvan__ 11y ago
        Promotion is not part of recruitment.
        betenoire 11y ago
        Of course it is. They are also known as career-advancement opportunities or whatever you want to call them. But they are most certainly part of recruitment, along with all the other possible benefits the company has to offer.
    - zobzu 11y ago
      To be honest hiring or promoting is probably similar so I wouldn't bash him. It's just unfortunate that the way we "fix things" is never fair. I'd rather we be transparent in the hiring, promoting, and salaries. I'd rather we attempt to fix the social pressure issues.

http://time.com/3904431/ellen-pao-appeal-sexism-case/ http://time.com/3904431/ellen-pao-appeal-sexism-case/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Fletcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Fletcher

zobzu 11y ago

I work in the silicon valley and I got quite a few promotion offers denied because I'm a white male and that's not promoting diversity. Heck, I didn't even mind it so much as long as the other candidates are +- qualified. But by that logic, I guess I should sue! ;-) Oh wait...

istvan__ 11y ago
It kind of funny how people turn their heads away about this situation. Anyways, I just finished reading the Fortune article from 2012 and it has more color to the story. http://fortune.com/2012/10/25/ellen-pao-buddy-fletcher/ http://fortune.com/2012/10/25/ellen-pao-buddy-fletcher/ I am wondering how long it takes to destroy reddit entirely.
DanBC 11y ago
If you have evidence that people did not hire / promote you because you are white you should totally sue. Perhaps your recent experience has opened your eyes to the difficulties black people have had for very many years. It is hard to get evidence of discrimination; that makes it hard to bring and win a case; lack of won cases is used as evidence of a lack of discrimination. Edit: added promote
- istvan__ 11y ago
  He did not mention hiring anywhere in his comment. Can you actually reply to him instead of giving words into his mouth?
  - DanBC 11y ago
    Adding the single word promote makes the post entirely an on-topic reply to what he said - white men are not discriminated against "because diversity"; and if they are the exact same legal recourse used by protected classes is open to them. But since you think I didn't answer their post: what do you think they were talking about? Do you think that "promotion" is somehow not part of "recruitment and selection"?
    - istvan__ 11y ago
      Promotion is not part of recruitment.
      - betenoire 11y ago
        Of course it is. They are also known as career-advancement opportunities or whatever you want to call them. But they are most certainly part of recruitment, along with all the other possible benefits the company has to offer.
  - zobzu 11y ago
    To be honest hiring or promoting is probably similar so I wouldn't bash him. It's just unfortunate that the way we "fix things" is never fair. I'd rather we be transparent in the hiring, promoting, and salaries. I'd rather we attempt to fix the social pressure issues.