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The fact that we can all talk about what we 'want to hear' about a place seems to imply that we have a narrative which we're looking to confirm, rather than bei
by WaxProlix 11y ago
The fact that we can all talk about what we 'want to hear' about a place seems to imply that we have a narrative which we're looking to confirm, rather than being objective and rational in our approach to these things. As with most red-washing campaigns, it's going to be hard to figure out how much badness was caused by horrible economic circumstance, how much by bad management, and how much by outright badness for badness's sake.
At the end of the day, you'll always have people on both sides - Stalin did nothing wrong and Stalin was literally worse than Hitler 90 million killed with his own hands, that sort of thing - and folks talking about NK operatives astroturfing in HN comments and everything else.
I think you're totally right, and this raw data is a great opportunity to actually get some facts and perspective on an otherwise opaque part of the world. Then we all get to have opinions and have those opinions confirmed, which will be nice.
- hackuser 11y ago> you'll always have people on both sides - Stalin did nothing wrong and Stalin was literally worse than Hitler 90 million killed with his own hands You'll always find some people who say anything, but having people say them doesn't make those assertions any more factual. Saying the Earth is flat or that Stalin did nothing wrong is false (without getting into debates about the meaning of "wrong"), even if people say it, no matter how many people say it. Saying the NK regime is not a brutal, murderous dictatorship, or suggesting that it is questionable or that there is some ambiguity in the responsibility of the perpetrators, is deceit.