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I agree they are terrible, but it's also still true that defectors have admitted to lying, and not everything that's been said about them has been true. It's go
by TallGuyShort 11y ago
I agree they are terrible, but it's also still true that defectors have admitted to lying, and not everything that's been said about them has been true. It's good that he has data because that can be verified, and I think we'd all agree verifying this, true or not, is what should be done.
- hackuser 11y ago> it's also still true that defectors have admitted to lying It's also true that every human lies, and people in every sphere of life have admitted to it. As I posted elsewhere (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9821740 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9821740) it's interesting that so many posts are trying to cast doubt on defectors, all using the same arguments.
- TallGuyShort 11y agoI'm sure you find it "interesting". I'm not casting doubt - I'm saying let's not get carried away. Are you AGAINST seeing what data he actually has?
- akavel 11y ago> Are you AGAINST seeing what data he actually has? Wow, now you're straight in the face advancing a pure and explicit strawman; he didn't at any point say he's against seeing the data. Just - wow.
- TallGuyShort 11y agoI'm not advancing a strawman - I'm straight asking him a question, because he's responded this way to multiple people who are just saying "let's wait and see what the data says".