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I'm currently co-authoring a paper that will be submitted to an Elsevier journal because it is a good fit for our work. All of my time and that of one other co-

I'm currently co-authoring a paper that will be submitted to an Elsevier journal because it is a good fit for our work. All of my time and that of one other co-author is funded by an NIH grant which of course is funded by US tax dollars. I'm fairly certain the Elsevier agreement stipulates that I cannot share my paper without their permission – assuming the paper is accepted. If I were the NIH, I would make it illegal for grant recipients to publish anywhere that does not support open access. [EDIT] There are some conditions under which sharing is permitted: http://www.elsevier.com/authors/journal-authors/sharing-and-promoting-your-article http://www.elsevier.com/authors/journal-authors/sharing-and-...

Someone 11y ago
"If I were the NIH, I would make it illegal for grant recipients to publish anywhere that does not support open access” Don’t they do that? https://publicaccess.nih.gov https://publicaccess.nih.gov: "To advance science and improve human health, NIH makes the peer-reviewed articles it funds publicly available on PubMed Central. The NIH public access policy requires scientists to submit final peer-reviewed journal manuscripts that arise from NIH funds to PubMed Central immediately upon acceptance for publication"
- Fomite 11y ago
  They're allowed to drag their feet a little bit, but yes.
- acaloiar 11y ago
  That is good news indeed! Thank you for letting me know. This is my first publicly funded work and I am not familiar with many of the policies. I will sleep better knowing that our work will not be holed up exclusively in the Elsevier-beast. Also of interest: http://www.elsevier.com/about/open-science/open-access/agreements/elsevier-nih-policy-statement http://www.elsevier.com/about/open-science/open-access/agree...
escherplex 11y ago
In last week's Economist of London (June 27, p.56) there is an article titled 'The halo effect' which explores conclusions drawn by a recent Princeton University study of large firms prosecuted for corruption and amount of subsequent punitive damages as a function of perceived 'corporate social responsibility'. Interesting finding was that 'spending on employee and community relations had a much bigger impact on the prosecutors than did promoting diversity or being environmentally friendly.' When push comes to shove all human interaction, like politics, is parochial. So it's not surprising that within the first-world academic community all Elsevier effort at 'making developing world libraries flourish' by supplying discount textbooks coupled with programs to 'award women scientists in the developing world' has done little to mitigate perception of the firm as being both avaricious and elitist. Seems like a change in strategy is in order.
rsfern 11y ago
For most Elsevier journals, you can post your preprint or even the accepted manuscript online--for example on a personal site or the arXiv. Sometimes I wonder why this point isn't brought up more often in discussions on open access publishing.

Someone 11y ago

"If I were the NIH, I would make it illegal for grant recipients to publish anywhere that does not support open access” Don’t they do that? https://publicaccess.nih.gov https://publicaccess.nih.gov: "To advance science and improve human health, NIH makes the peer-reviewed articles it funds publicly available on PubMed Central. The NIH public access policy requires scientists to submit final peer-reviewed journal manuscripts that arise from NIH funds to PubMed Central immediately upon acceptance for publication"

Fomite 11y ago
They're allowed to drag their feet a little bit, but yes.
acaloiar 11y ago
That is good news indeed! Thank you for letting me know. This is my first publicly funded work and I am not familiar with many of the policies. I will sleep better knowing that our work will not be holed up exclusively in the Elsevier-beast. Also of interest: http://www.elsevier.com/about/open-science/open-access/agreements/elsevier-nih-policy-statement http://www.elsevier.com/about/open-science/open-access/agree...

escherplex 11y ago

In last week's Economist of London (June 27, p.56) there is an article titled 'The halo effect' which explores conclusions drawn by a recent Princeton University study of large firms prosecuted for corruption and amount of subsequent punitive damages as a function of perceived 'corporate social responsibility'. Interesting finding was that 'spending on employee and community relations had a much bigger impact on the prosecutors than did promoting diversity or being environmentally friendly.' When push comes to shove all human interaction, like politics, is parochial. So it's not surprising that within the first-world academic community all Elsevier effort at 'making developing world libraries flourish' by supplying discount textbooks coupled with programs to 'award women scientists in the developing world' has done little to mitigate perception of the firm as being both avaricious and elitist. Seems like a change in strategy is in order.

rsfern 11y ago

For most Elsevier journals, you can post your preprint or even the accepted manuscript online--for example on a personal site or the arXiv. Sometimes I wonder why this point isn't brought up more often in discussions on open access publishing.