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> Wtf? what is the justification for this? It's called a "money grab". Wouldn't you love to be able to tax photographers for taking pictures of public places t

> Wtf? what is the justification for this? It's called a "money grab". Wouldn't you love to be able to tax photographers for taking pictures of public places too? I mean, it's not as if there will be no pictures of the Eiffel Tower at night, that'd be silly. They'll just be able to restrict those photos to those willing to pay licensing fees. But this is Europe we're talking about... the same people who think the label "cheddar cheese" should be copyrightable.

arethuza 11y ago
I think you might mean a "protected designation of origin" or a "protected geographical indication" rather than "copyright" - apparently "cheddar cheese" has no such protection although "Orkney Cheddar Cheese" does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_traditional_specialities_in_the_European_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_cheese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_cheese This actually seems reasonable to me, perhaps because I am European and also rather fond of good cheese!
- seanp2k2 11y ago
  This is more generally known as https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellation Another example is champagne. Sparkling wine from other regions is not technically champagne. However, limiting the ability of the public to photograph things outdoors doesn't seem quite comparable. If a real estate company owned a significant number of buildings in a downtown area, could they then copyright the skyline of a city as the creative work of their collective architectural firms? If you made a large installation visible from space (say, the Palm Islands in Dubai), could you claim copyright on images of Earth with high enough detail to make out your work? Basically, what's the limit on this, because it seems like it has a pretty high ceiling for ridiculousness.
  - germanier 11y ago
    > If a real estate company owned a significant number of buildings in a downtown area, could they then copyright the skyline of a city as the creative work of their collective architectural firms? Usually copyright belongs to the architect and can't be transferred to anyone in Europe. > If you made a large installation visible from space (say, the Palm Islands in Dubai), could you claim copyright on images of Earth with high enough detail to make out your work? I'm pretty sure that's already the case in many jurisdictions, including Germany where there is freedom of panorama. That only applies for images taken without technical assistance to get the view and using a satellite to take the picture is certainly technical assistance (as is a ladder btw.).
    - xtreme 11y ago
      Does using a tripod count as technical assistance?
      - germanier 11y ago
        Not as long as it doesn't help you to get a view you wouldn't get without (e.g. peeking over a wall).

arethuza 11y ago

I think you might mean a "protected designation of origin" or a "protected geographical indication" rather than "copyright" - apparently "cheddar cheese" has no such protection although "Orkney Cheddar Cheese" does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_traditional_specialities_in_the_European_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_cheese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_cheese This actually seems reasonable to me, perhaps because I am European and also rather fond of good cheese!

seanp2k2 11y ago
This is more generally known as https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellation Another example is champagne. Sparkling wine from other regions is not technically champagne. However, limiting the ability of the public to photograph things outdoors doesn't seem quite comparable. If a real estate company owned a significant number of buildings in a downtown area, could they then copyright the skyline of a city as the creative work of their collective architectural firms? If you made a large installation visible from space (say, the Palm Islands in Dubai), could you claim copyright on images of Earth with high enough detail to make out your work? Basically, what's the limit on this, because it seems like it has a pretty high ceiling for ridiculousness.
- germanier 11y ago
  > If a real estate company owned a significant number of buildings in a downtown area, could they then copyright the skyline of a city as the creative work of their collective architectural firms? Usually copyright belongs to the architect and can't be transferred to anyone in Europe. > If you made a large installation visible from space (say, the Palm Islands in Dubai), could you claim copyright on images of Earth with high enough detail to make out your work? I'm pretty sure that's already the case in many jurisdictions, including Germany where there is freedom of panorama. That only applies for images taken without technical assistance to get the view and using a satellite to take the picture is certainly technical assistance (as is a ladder btw.).
  - xtreme 11y ago
    Does using a tripod count as technical assistance?
    - germanier 11y ago
      Not as long as it doesn't help you to get a view you wouldn't get without (e.g. peeking over a wall).