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I 100% thought this was going to be a conservative hit piece about Hollywood/California. tl;dr: it's not.

by kenjackson 11y ago

protomyth 11y ago
In the New York Times?
- jerf 11y ago
  Well, there's a much quieter but also storied history of West Coast vs. East Coast rivalries. Even computer science had its own rivalries, before the Internet effectively erased the geographical distinction for most such purposes.
  - mindslight 11y ago
    The Internet has not erased the distinction that one region gets snow and therefore tends to plan ahead.
patzerhacker 11y ago
That's unlikely given that Saint Reagan was a movie star.
- slayed0 11y ago
  As was Schwarzenegger
  - gyc 11y ago
    Once again. It's the New York Times.
  - mindslight 11y ago
    As is every political candidate. Tailored personas meant to attract our hopes and dreams for sanity. When they lose, it's as a hero and we tell ourselves that we supported the good fight. When they win and inevitably disappoint (being just public relations for the status quo), they're demonized as the villain to contain and channel outrage into support for the next round of a manufactured rivalry.
briandear 11y ago
What do you mean "conservative hit piece?" Would you have used the term "liberal hit piece"!if the publication were Motherjones or MSNBC? Your comment reveals a lack of objectivity.
- devindotcom 11y ago
  Given that California is generally considered one of the most liberal in the nation, and that the headline (or how he imagined it) is critical of the state in question, it's actually a very reasonable suspicion. Your assumption that he would not use a comparable term for the opposite situation, say "a liberal hit piece about Texas" in fact reveals a much more obvious lack of objectivity.
- Lawtonfogle 11y ago
  The publication doesn't even have to be taken into account. The movie stars bit of the title makes one think California, and the 'what happens' gives a slight negative implication when combined with movie stars (at least that was my initial perception). Thus the title appeared to be casting California in a negative light. Being California leans liberal, a negative article reviewing the state would likely have a conservative lean to it. Thus the description can lead to the assumption without even needing to see the source of the article.
  - mc32 11y ago
    There are at least two California's, the liberal one we all see and live in on the coast and the more agricultural and conservative interior which we don't hear about so much.
    - thrownaway2424 11y ago
      ... because nobody lives there.
      - mc32 11y ago
        Nah... I think it's more because they don't have much access to media. They are a sizable portion of the pop. But like most minorities, they are underrepresented in popular culture and zeitgeist. For most intents and purposes they are a "forgotten backwater".

I 100% thought this was going to be a conservative hit piece about Hollywood/California. tl;dr: it's not.

protomyth 11y ago

In the New York Times?

jerf 11y ago
Well, there's a much quieter but also storied history of West Coast vs. East Coast rivalries. Even computer science had its own rivalries, before the Internet effectively erased the geographical distinction for most such purposes.
- mindslight 11y ago
  The Internet has not erased the distinction that one region gets snow and therefore tends to plan ahead.

patzerhacker 11y ago

That's unlikely given that Saint Reagan was a movie star.

slayed0 11y ago
As was Schwarzenegger
- gyc 11y ago
  Once again. It's the New York Times.
- mindslight 11y ago
  As is every political candidate. Tailored personas meant to attract our hopes and dreams for sanity. When they lose, it's as a hero and we tell ourselves that we supported the good fight. When they win and inevitably disappoint (being just public relations for the status quo), they're demonized as the villain to contain and channel outrage into support for the next round of a manufactured rivalry.

briandear 11y ago

What do you mean "conservative hit piece?" Would you have used the term "liberal hit piece"!if the publication were Motherjones or MSNBC? Your comment reveals a lack of objectivity.

devindotcom 11y ago
Given that California is generally considered one of the most liberal in the nation, and that the headline (or how he imagined it) is critical of the state in question, it's actually a very reasonable suspicion. Your assumption that he would not use a comparable term for the opposite situation, say "a liberal hit piece about Texas" in fact reveals a much more obvious lack of objectivity.
Lawtonfogle 11y ago
The publication doesn't even have to be taken into account. The movie stars bit of the title makes one think California, and the 'what happens' gives a slight negative implication when combined with movie stars (at least that was my initial perception). Thus the title appeared to be casting California in a negative light. Being California leans liberal, a negative article reviewing the state would likely have a conservative lean to it. Thus the description can lead to the assumption without even needing to see the source of the article.
- mc32 11y ago
  There are at least two California's, the liberal one we all see and live in on the coast and the more agricultural and conservative interior which we don't hear about so much.
  - thrownaway2424 11y ago
    ... because nobody lives there.
    - mc32 11y ago
      Nah... I think it's more because they don't have much access to media. They are a sizable portion of the pop. But like most minorities, they are underrepresented in popular culture and zeitgeist. For most intents and purposes they are a "forgotten backwater".