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Safari's new approach of using a built in (natively compiled) rules engine to block content seems more and more to be the best option. But it's also the kind of

by atonse 11y ago

Safari's new approach of using a built in (natively compiled) rules engine to block content seems more and more to be the best option. But it's also the kind of option you'd only see from a vendor who doesn't make any money from ads (Apple... and possibly MS).

EricVi 11y ago
What doesn't prevent these vendors to advertise their own products. Or make money by letting others pay. Apple, MS and {{any_big_company}} do everything that generates revenue. Even Mozilla has started to sell data and advertising space in Firefox. I don't care where the spam is coming from. And no Mozilla, I will certainly never book my next holiday trip on booking.com.
- Manishearth 11y ago
  Advertising space, not data. Nobody is tracking you through the new tab page. Mozilla just populates it with some default ads (which can be removed or replaced with your own new tab customizations)
  - BenjiBajing 11y ago
    Actually Mozilla analyzes and stores the user's surfing data to allow it's customers to direct ads to the user's preferences. I actually don't understand why so few seem to bother. I think it's a quite big deal. Same with these telefonica chat thing.
    - Manishearth 11y ago
      Source? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-tiles-work-firefox#w_what-data-is-being-collected-and-why https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-tiles-work-firef... https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tiles/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tiles/ Regular telemetry data. Not surfing data. And certainly not sold. Hello doesn't collect data passively either; using the video chat can of course lead to data collection though I doubt it does (but you would have to assume that can happen for any non peer-to-peer service of this kind since there will always be a server side component which you can't verify) Stop spreading FUD.

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Safari's new approach of using a built in (natively compiled) rules engine to block content seems more and more to be the best option. But it's also the kind of

by atonse 11y ago

EricVi 11y ago
What doesn't prevent these vendors to advertise their own products. Or make money by letting others pay. Apple, MS and {{any_big_company}} do everything that generates revenue. Even Mozilla has started to sell data and advertising space in Firefox. I don't care where the spam is coming from. And no Mozilla, I will certainly never book my next holiday trip on booking.com.
- Manishearth 11y ago
  Advertising space, not data. Nobody is tracking you through the new tab page. Mozilla just populates it with some default ads (which can be removed or replaced with your own new tab customizations)
  - BenjiBajing 11y ago
    Actually Mozilla analyzes and stores the user's surfing data to allow it's customers to direct ads to the user's preferences. I actually don't understand why so few seem to bother. I think it's a quite big deal. Same with these telefonica chat thing.
    - Manishearth 11y ago
      Source? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-tiles-work-firefox#w_what-data-is-being-collected-and-why https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-tiles-work-firef... https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tiles/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tiles/ Regular telemetry data. Not surfing data. And certainly not sold. Hello doesn't collect data passively either; using the video chat can of course lead to data collection though I doubt it does (but you would have to assume that can happen for any non peer-to-peer service of this kind since there will always be a server side component which you can't verify) Stop spreading FUD.