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This ignores the fact that discrimination in a career field deters women from being interested in the field to begin with, creating a self-sustaining vicious cy
by tedks 11y ago
This ignores the fact that discrimination in a career field deters women from being interested in the field to begin with, creating a self-sustaining vicious cycle.
Within broad notions of a career, for example a "career in law" or a "career in medicine", we see much more equal numbers for men and women, but when we look at the jobs women actually have, we see that women occupy low status jobs (like paralegal and nurse) while men occupy high status jobs (like lawyer and doctor), indicating that interest is not a factor in gender gaps for specific professions.
It's disappointing to read hacker news comments on any article related to feminism, and this isn't an exception. The goal of more than a hundred years of feminist struggle isn't to change the rules of society in some arbitrary way so deontological goals are adhered to, but women are not actually equal members of society. The goal is to create an actually equal society. Anything less is a failure, and if you argue for that, you are arguing against feminism.
- oldmanjay 11y agoI find it disappointing to read any comments on feminism anywhere on the internet, from almost any angle. Between the outright attacks, debate framing, emotional reasoning, and near-religious adherence to party lines on things like redefinitions of the word "violence", it's impossible to have any sort of real conversation. This is without even considering the input of the trolls who just want to watch the world burn. The most you can do is nod along in an echo chamber, or see who can yell out their "facts" the loudest.