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The quality of Mail.app in last months was so poor that after years of swithing from webmail to Mail.app, I've went back to webmail to have a usable mail client

by tachion 11y ago

The quality of Mail.app in last months was so poor that after years of swithing from webmail to Mail.app, I've went back to webmail to have a usable mail client again. And hey, lower interruption noise comes free! ;)

rayiner 11y ago
Microsoft's new Outlook client is excellent on both iOS and Mac.
- rys 11y ago
  Does the iOS client still send all of your email through Microsoft?
  - 0x0 11y ago
    That's probably the only way they are able to deliver push notifications.
- hmottestad 11y ago
  I have the new Outlook for Mac. On the first day I tried it it would crash instantly because of an email in my mail account without a sender or receiver or body or subject. After a few days of having a useless Microsoft support tech rebuilding the Outlook index 10-15 times and disabling the built in firewall I finally stumbled upon someone online telling me to search for empty emails in my webmail. After I got Outlook to work again it would only crash 3-5 times a day (logs for one of the days: http://fluffyelephant.com/2015/02/outlook-for-mac-v15-6-is-unstable/ http://fluffyelephant.com/2015/02/outlook-for-mac-v15-6-is-u... ). It was like that for a few months, now it only crashes a couple of times a week. And I'm the lucky one. My boss had his Outlook crash on launch after 3 months of using it. Microsoft couldn't even get the data out (calendar, contacts, sent messages) and he had to go back to the old Outlook and Microsoft even messed that up so bad that he could only use the calendar in day mode (not week of month) for a few weeks. So my suggestions. Apple has started to make shoddy software as of late, they still have a long way down though until they reach the Microsoft level. Even if they hired the shittiest developers for 5 years, I would still choose Apple over Microsoft.
  - rayiner 11y ago
    Interesting. Mine has crashed a few times since it came out late last year (6-8 months) but I think that's pretty consistent with what's technically still a preview build for Office 2016.

by tachion 11y ago

rayiner 11y ago

Microsoft's new Outlook client is excellent on both iOS and Mac.

rys 11y ago
Does the iOS client still send all of your email through Microsoft?
- 0x0 11y ago
  That's probably the only way they are able to deliver push notifications.
hmottestad 11y ago
I have the new Outlook for Mac. On the first day I tried it it would crash instantly because of an email in my mail account without a sender or receiver or body or subject. After a few days of having a useless Microsoft support tech rebuilding the Outlook index 10-15 times and disabling the built in firewall I finally stumbled upon someone online telling me to search for empty emails in my webmail. After I got Outlook to work again it would only crash 3-5 times a day (logs for one of the days: http://fluffyelephant.com/2015/02/outlook-for-mac-v15-6-is-unstable/ http://fluffyelephant.com/2015/02/outlook-for-mac-v15-6-is-u... ). It was like that for a few months, now it only crashes a couple of times a week. And I'm the lucky one. My boss had his Outlook crash on launch after 3 months of using it. Microsoft couldn't even get the data out (calendar, contacts, sent messages) and he had to go back to the old Outlook and Microsoft even messed that up so bad that he could only use the calendar in day mode (not week of month) for a few weeks. So my suggestions. Apple has started to make shoddy software as of late, they still have a long way down though until they reach the Microsoft level. Even if they hired the shittiest developers for 5 years, I would still choose Apple over Microsoft.
- rayiner 11y ago
  Interesting. Mine has crashed a few times since it came out late last year (6-8 months) but I think that's pretty consistent with what's technically still a preview build for Office 2016.