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So happy to see discoveryd gone and replaced with good old mDNSResponder. No more crazy hangs in DNS resolving and hopefully no more random hung IMAP connection

by 0x0 11y ago

So happy to see discoveryd gone and replaced with good old mDNSResponder. No more crazy hangs in DNS resolving and hopefully no more random hung IMAP connections in Mail.app.

tachion 11y ago
The quality of Mail.app in last months was so poor that after years of swithing from webmail to Mail.app, I've went back to webmail to have a usable mail client again. And hey, lower interruption noise comes free! ;)
- rayiner 11y ago
  Microsoft's new Outlook client is excellent on both iOS and Mac.
  - rys 11y ago
    Does the iOS client still send all of your email through Microsoft?
    - 0x0 11y ago
      That's probably the only way they are able to deliver push notifications.
  - hmottestad 11y ago
    I have the new Outlook for Mac. On the first day I tried it it would crash instantly because of an email in my mail account without a sender or receiver or body or subject. After a few days of having a useless Microsoft support tech rebuilding the Outlook index 10-15 times and disabling the built in firewall I finally stumbled upon someone online telling me to search for empty emails in my webmail. After I got Outlook to work again it would only crash 3-5 times a day (logs for one of the days: http://fluffyelephant.com/2015/02/outlook-for-mac-v15-6-is-unstable/ http://fluffyelephant.com/2015/02/outlook-for-mac-v15-6-is-u... ). It was like that for a few months, now it only crashes a couple of times a week. And I'm the lucky one. My boss had his Outlook crash on launch after 3 months of using it. Microsoft couldn't even get the data out (calendar, contacts, sent messages) and he had to go back to the old Outlook and Microsoft even messed that up so bad that he could only use the calendar in day mode (not week of month) for a few weeks. So my suggestions. Apple has started to make shoddy software as of late, they still have a long way down though until they reach the Microsoft level. Even if they hired the shittiest developers for 5 years, I would still choose Apple over Microsoft.
    - rayiner 11y ago
      Interesting. Mine has crashed a few times since it came out late last year (6-8 months) but I think that's pretty consistent with what's technically still a preview build for Office 2016.
rayiner 11y ago
My morning commute involves 2-3 minutes before my train enters a tunnel for 5-10 minutes. I'd like to check my morning emails in that time, but I never manage to get my laptop to connect to the Amtrak WiFi by then. I had always blamed Amtrak for the problem, until I brought my work Thinkpad one day and it connected immediately. I'm beginning to suspect the DNS redirection used for the Amtrak WiFi splash page confuses discoveryd. I've been super disappointed with Yosemite's networking. It takes forever to connect to an access point, and Instant Hotspot works maybe 30% of the time between my rMBP and iPhone 6+.
- tthayer 11y ago
  The instant hotspot thing stopped behaving for me and the fix has been to click on the bluetooth menu and mouse over the phone connection over and over. I have no idea why this works or if it even does anything, but so far I've had no problem connecting when I do it and when I don't it times out.
pbreit 11y ago
I currently have to cycle my wifi several times/day. This better fix that.
- craigching 11y ago
  Yes, I have the same problem. Not only with my MBP though, with my iPad as well so I'm not sure we're going to get the fix :-/
- exhilaration 11y ago
  Ouch. Looks like I'm going to continue running Mavericks for now.
- rcthompson 11y ago
  I wrote an Automator script to toggle my wifi on and off and set it to run every time my MBP wakes from sleep. You can download it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/35wywi0v53a29kn/Twiddle%20Wifi.app.zip?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/35wywi0v53a29kn/Twiddle%20Wifi.app... (It's just the Automator script saved as a .app file)
jonnynezbo 11y ago
I had an issue where every page request resulted in 'Resolving host...' for about 10-30 seconds before the page would begin loading. Also, songs took forever to start in Spotify. At first I attributed the problem to a hung Time Machine backup. But, turns out it was caused by Boom 2 for Mac: http://www.globaldelight.com/globaldelightforum/discussion/1867/boom-2-v1-2-terible-boom-remote-bug/p1 http://www.globaldelight.com/globaldelightforum/discussion/1... As soon as I disabled Boom 2 Remote, which was enabled by default, the problem went away. They acknowledged it in an email to customers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/w9y331nq8d0g5zi/m29dyuvh.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/w9y331nq8d0g5zi/m29dyu...

by 0x0 11y ago

So happy to see discoveryd gone and replaced with good old mDNSResponder. No more crazy hangs in DNS resolving and hopefully no more random hung IMAP connections in Mail.app.

tachion 11y ago

The quality of Mail.app in last months was so poor that after years of swithing from webmail to Mail.app, I've went back to webmail to have a usable mail client again. And hey, lower interruption noise comes free! ;)

rayiner 11y ago
Microsoft's new Outlook client is excellent on both iOS and Mac.
- rys 11y ago
  Does the iOS client still send all of your email through Microsoft?
  - 0x0 11y ago
    That's probably the only way they are able to deliver push notifications.
- hmottestad 11y ago
  I have the new Outlook for Mac. On the first day I tried it it would crash instantly because of an email in my mail account without a sender or receiver or body or subject. After a few days of having a useless Microsoft support tech rebuilding the Outlook index 10-15 times and disabling the built in firewall I finally stumbled upon someone online telling me to search for empty emails in my webmail. After I got Outlook to work again it would only crash 3-5 times a day (logs for one of the days: http://fluffyelephant.com/2015/02/outlook-for-mac-v15-6-is-unstable/ http://fluffyelephant.com/2015/02/outlook-for-mac-v15-6-is-u... ). It was like that for a few months, now it only crashes a couple of times a week. And I'm the lucky one. My boss had his Outlook crash on launch after 3 months of using it. Microsoft couldn't even get the data out (calendar, contacts, sent messages) and he had to go back to the old Outlook and Microsoft even messed that up so bad that he could only use the calendar in day mode (not week of month) for a few weeks. So my suggestions. Apple has started to make shoddy software as of late, they still have a long way down though until they reach the Microsoft level. Even if they hired the shittiest developers for 5 years, I would still choose Apple over Microsoft.
  - rayiner 11y ago
    Interesting. Mine has crashed a few times since it came out late last year (6-8 months) but I think that's pretty consistent with what's technically still a preview build for Office 2016.

rayiner 11y ago

My morning commute involves 2-3 minutes before my train enters a tunnel for 5-10 minutes. I'd like to check my morning emails in that time, but I never manage to get my laptop to connect to the Amtrak WiFi by then. I had always blamed Amtrak for the problem, until I brought my work Thinkpad one day and it connected immediately. I'm beginning to suspect the DNS redirection used for the Amtrak WiFi splash page confuses discoveryd. I've been super disappointed with Yosemite's networking. It takes forever to connect to an access point, and Instant Hotspot works maybe 30% of the time between my rMBP and iPhone 6+.

tthayer 11y ago
The instant hotspot thing stopped behaving for me and the fix has been to click on the bluetooth menu and mouse over the phone connection over and over. I have no idea why this works or if it even does anything, but so far I've had no problem connecting when I do it and when I don't it times out.

pbreit 11y ago

I currently have to cycle my wifi several times/day. This better fix that.

craigching 11y ago
Yes, I have the same problem. Not only with my MBP though, with my iPad as well so I'm not sure we're going to get the fix :-/
exhilaration 11y ago
Ouch. Looks like I'm going to continue running Mavericks for now.
rcthompson 11y ago
I wrote an Automator script to toggle my wifi on and off and set it to run every time my MBP wakes from sleep. You can download it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/35wywi0v53a29kn/Twiddle%20Wifi.app.zip?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/35wywi0v53a29kn/Twiddle%20Wifi.app... (It's just the Automator script saved as a .app file)

jonnynezbo 11y ago

I had an issue where every page request resulted in 'Resolving host...' for about 10-30 seconds before the page would begin loading. Also, songs took forever to start in Spotify. At first I attributed the problem to a hung Time Machine backup. But, turns out it was caused by Boom 2 for Mac: http://www.globaldelight.com/globaldelightforum/discussion/1867/boom-2-v1-2-terible-boom-remote-bug/p1 http://www.globaldelight.com/globaldelightforum/discussion/1... As soon as I disabled Boom 2 Remote, which was enabled by default, the problem went away. They acknowledged it in an email to customers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/w9y331nq8d0g5zi/m29dyuvh.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/w9y331nq8d0g5zi/m29dyu...