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> in my experience, it's the fastest browser on OS X by a pretty > wide margin. Chrome is so bloated and full of garbage at this > point that when I have it

> in my experience, it's the fastest browser on OS X by a pretty > wide margin. Chrome is so bloated and full of garbage at this > point that when I have it open, I usually have at least one tab > sitting at 100% CPU (and this is with FlashBlock enabled). Safari > also manages to feel faster while using significantly less power > -- I suspect Apple has done some optimizations through Grand > Central on this front. This. As a developer... I sympathize with people who like developing on the desktop with Chrome and for Chrome, but as a user, I prefer the browser that doesn't spin up the fans on my MacBook Air. As we adulate Tesla for their accomplishments with battery technology, we often point out that battery life is a software problem, and that it involves a specific set of engineering tradeoffs. Apple is simply making those tradeoffs. And it has to. Google make a browser that runs on everything. If one platform is slower than another, or has less battery life than another, blame the platform vendor. Google doesn't care. But Apple sells hardware. If a MacBook gets so hot it burns your thighs, they lose sales. If the battery life on an iPad is terrible, they lose sales. Safari gives their users a legitimate way to enjoy web browsing on a cool-running system with long battery life. That sells.

cordite 11y ago
It also has better performance with retina, scrolling, less jank, and other user-experience/satisfaction related qualities. It's dev tools aren't adequate for my use, but for being a user of other sites, it has been wholly sufficient.
- etchalon 11y ago
  Apple's improving the dev tools in El Capitan: https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2015/?id=505 https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2015/?id=505
orbitur 11y ago
> I sympathize with people who like developing on the desktop with Chrome and for Chrome, but as a user, I prefer the browser that doesn't spin up the fans on my MacBook Air For me it's just video perf, but the worst part is that it's Google own web services that are spinning up the fans, and their video services work 10x better in Safari! I have a shiny new 15" Retina MBP, which heats up like a stove if I use Chrome to open a video Hangout or watch YouTube. So for work meetings I've made a habit of having my calendar always open in Safari so when I click the video link, I get the Hangout in Safari as well. And Safari manages to not set my computer on fire, amazing!

cordite 11y ago

It also has better performance with retina, scrolling, less jank, and other user-experience/satisfaction related qualities. It's dev tools aren't adequate for my use, but for being a user of other sites, it has been wholly sufficient.

etchalon 11y ago
Apple's improving the dev tools in El Capitan: https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2015/?id=505 https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2015/?id=505

orbitur 11y ago

> I sympathize with people who like developing on the desktop with Chrome and for Chrome, but as a user, I prefer the browser that doesn't spin up the fans on my MacBook Air For me it's just video perf, but the worst part is that it's Google own web services that are spinning up the fans, and their video services work 10x better in Safari! I have a shiny new 15" Retina MBP, which heats up like a stove if I use Chrome to open a video Hangout or watch YouTube. So for work meetings I've made a habit of having my calendar always open in Safari so when I click the video link, I get the Hangout in Safari as well. And Safari manages to not set my computer on fire, amazing!