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I used to live in one of the most multicultural areas of London before the rents started going through the roof. I loved it. Now it's slowly turned into a stri

I used to live in one of the most multicultural areas of London before the rents started going through the roof. I loved it. Now it's slowly turned into a string of soulless Gucci/Prada/Maserati shops, and all the people/immigrants who made it a genuinely nice place to live have been priced out by foreign investors. But sure, racism or whatever.

facepalm 11y ago
How can an investor price somebody out? The investor only makes money if people are willing to pay rent for his property. So it is the willingness of people to pay the high rent that drives the prices up. Edit: HN doesn't let me write more comments. I still don't understand from those videos how they make money with the vacant houses. Also the articles are a bit weird, as if renting out a few houses in an expensive street would really have a significant impact on the housing issues of London.
- jon-wood 11y ago
  The way the housing market is at the moment you can make money even if the property is empty just by waiting long enough.
- SideburnsOfDoom 11y ago
  > The investor only makes money if people are willing to pay rent for his property. In most cases, yes. But not in all cases. The thing is, it is not normal to be able to make money on an empty property. So then, the expensive parts of London are not normal. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/31/inside-london-billionaires-row-derelict-mansions-hampstead http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/31/inside-london... http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/lights-out-london-street-where-7-in-10-houses-are-second-homes-10249301.html http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/lights-out-london-stre... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/25/its-like-a-ghost-town-lights-go-out-as-foreign-owners-desert-london-homes http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/25/its-like-a-gh...
- elektromekatron 11y ago
  I still don't understand from those videos how they make money with the vacant houses. In the UK, the main political parities have resisted allowing a house construction boom for two main reasons. Much of middle England has got used to steep house price increases as normal income stream, so to slow it down is considered to be political suicide. And also much of the financial industry and upper classes are very used to it, so it would screw with the banks and the posh people to slow it down as well. This means that currently London property is just guaranteed to rise (or so folk think), so it is considered an investment just to buy it and wait, and has been for at least 20 years. This is also why they keep putting off raising interest rates. When they do it will get very messy.
peteretep 11y ago
> most multicultural areas of London ... > a string of soulless Gucci/Prada/Maserati shops Where is that? Sounds like some pretty quick gentrification! When did you live there? > by foreign investors 2012-2013, 18,000 British people made over £1m. Presumably they put it all in to good, clean, British things, not like those foreigners who bought-up all the houses... [eyeroll] Just because your prejudice spans a class direction upward doesn't stop it being xenophobic.

facepalm 11y ago

How can an investor price somebody out? The investor only makes money if people are willing to pay rent for his property. So it is the willingness of people to pay the high rent that drives the prices up. Edit: HN doesn't let me write more comments. I still don't understand from those videos how they make money with the vacant houses. Also the articles are a bit weird, as if renting out a few houses in an expensive street would really have a significant impact on the housing issues of London.

jon-wood 11y ago
The way the housing market is at the moment you can make money even if the property is empty just by waiting long enough.
SideburnsOfDoom 11y ago
> The investor only makes money if people are willing to pay rent for his property. In most cases, yes. But not in all cases. The thing is, it is not normal to be able to make money on an empty property. So then, the expensive parts of London are not normal. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/31/inside-london-billionaires-row-derelict-mansions-hampstead http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/31/inside-london... http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/lights-out-london-street-where-7-in-10-houses-are-second-homes-10249301.html http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/lights-out-london-stre... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/25/its-like-a-ghost-town-lights-go-out-as-foreign-owners-desert-london-homes http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/25/its-like-a-gh...
elektromekatron 11y ago
I still don't understand from those videos how they make money with the vacant houses. In the UK, the main political parities have resisted allowing a house construction boom for two main reasons. Much of middle England has got used to steep house price increases as normal income stream, so to slow it down is considered to be political suicide. And also much of the financial industry and upper classes are very used to it, so it would screw with the banks and the posh people to slow it down as well. This means that currently London property is just guaranteed to rise (or so folk think), so it is considered an investment just to buy it and wait, and has been for at least 20 years. This is also why they keep putting off raising interest rates. When they do it will get very messy.

peteretep 11y ago

> most multicultural areas of London ... > a string of soulless Gucci/Prada/Maserati shops Where is that? Sounds like some pretty quick gentrification! When did you live there? > by foreign investors 2012-2013, 18,000 British people made over £1m. Presumably they put it all in to good, clean, British things, not like those foreigners who bought-up all the houses... [eyeroll] Just because your prejudice spans a class direction upward doesn't stop it being xenophobic.