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In the big picture an arrest and the subsequent legal proceeding isn't a big deal in someone's life if they are exonerated. We shouldn't short-cut the legal pr

by qopp 11y ago

In the big picture an arrest and the subsequent legal proceeding isn't a big deal in someone's life if they are exonerated. We shouldn't short-cut the legal process with a quick, possibly faulty process.

deckar01 11y ago
The current faulty shortcut is to plead guilty for a crime you didn't commit [1]. That is not justice. Being processed in a time frame that matches the severity of the crime seems more fitting. [1] http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-basics-plea-bargain.html http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-basics-plea-barga...
prutschman 11y ago
> isn't a big deal in someone's life if they are exonerated It is if they lose their job because they're in jail. It is if they don't have anyone else to look after their kid while they're in jail. It is if they can't afford court fees.
uhwhat 11y ago
Courts are overwhelmed because laws rarely get revoked, revised, or modernized. 6th amendment to the US constitution: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense
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jen729w 11y ago
> In the big picture an arrest and the subsequent legal proceeding isn't a big deal in someone's life if they are exonerated. Says someone with a disturbing lack of empathy.
MertsA 11y ago
This is only about stopping police misconduct before they maliciously charge someone with a crime. Provided this review process was suitably unbiased and not just getting a buddy to rubber stamp arrests that could be a good improvement over the lack of accountability and justice in the process currently.
Sacho 11y ago
The fact that you're commenting on this site most likely means you're not in a position to make this judgement call. Perhaps you don't work at a job where you're expendable, where the management looks down upon you because you're "white trash" or an "uppity black", where telling your boss that you were unfairly arrested doesn't get you any sympathies(unpaid leave, or fired), and the bank supplying your mortgage certainly isn't sympathetic to your appeal that you lost all your money because you had to go and defend yourself in court instead of actually working. The problem isn't me being pulled over and questioned. I can brush it off as an unfortunate side-effect of an otherwise beneficial solution. Those people that live day by day and have no allowance to deal with this shit literally have their lives ruined by such an interaction.

by qopp 11y ago

deckar01 11y ago

The current faulty shortcut is to plead guilty for a crime you didn't commit [1]. That is not justice. Being processed in a time frame that matches the severity of the crime seems more fitting. [1] http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-basics-plea-bargain.html http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-basics-plea-barga...

prutschman 11y ago

> isn't a big deal in someone's life if they are exonerated It is if they lose their job because they're in jail. It is if they don't have anyone else to look after their kid while they're in jail. It is if they can't afford court fees.

uhwhat 11y ago

Courts are overwhelmed because laws rarely get revoked, revised, or modernized. 6th amendment to the US constitution: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense

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jen729w 11y ago

> In the big picture an arrest and the subsequent legal proceeding isn't a big deal in someone's life if they are exonerated. Says someone with a disturbing lack of empathy.

MertsA 11y ago

This is only about stopping police misconduct before they maliciously charge someone with a crime. Provided this review process was suitably unbiased and not just getting a buddy to rubber stamp arrests that could be a good improvement over the lack of accountability and justice in the process currently.

Sacho 11y ago

The fact that you're commenting on this site most likely means you're not in a position to make this judgement call. Perhaps you don't work at a job where you're expendable, where the management looks down upon you because you're "white trash" or an "uppity black", where telling your boss that you were unfairly arrested doesn't get you any sympathies(unpaid leave, or fired), and the bank supplying your mortgage certainly isn't sympathetic to your appeal that you lost all your money because you had to go and defend yourself in court instead of actually working. The problem isn't me being pulled over and questioned. I can brush it off as an unfortunate side-effect of an otherwise beneficial solution. Those people that live day by day and have no allowance to deal with this shit literally have their lives ruined by such an interaction.