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> * France is one of the most notoriously brazen state sponsors of industrial espionage, especially within the EU. I'm not saying this is wrong, but you should
by oskarth 11y ago
> * France is one of the most notoriously brazen state sponsors of industrial espionage, especially within the EU.
I'm not saying this is wrong, but you should back up such a statement with some real sources.
> * This stuff is rampant between all the industrialized nations. You can find stories going back decades about Americans being evicted from embassies over industrial espionage. Somehow, we all seem to remain allies.
So what?
> * Technically --- modulo the "getting caught" part --- this is what NSA is supposed to be doing. That's a positive assertion, not a normative one!
How so? According to Bruce Schneier NSA's mission is twofold: protecting the security of U.S. communications and eavesdropping on the communications of our enemies, where the enemies pretty much means Soviet, not other NATO countries. Are you saying this is not the twofold mission of NSA?
(Note that this doesn't mean there aren't "legitimate" reasons to spy on allies - but that's not what you are saying).
> Curious how we never seem to see Russia as the focus of Wikileaks releases. They must just be really respectful of the civil liberties of citizens of the world.
1) So what?
2) Maybe they just didn't get any leaks from them?
3) For everyone in the western world, the Russia is so obviously anti "civil liberties" there's not much to uncover. For people in the east, there's Radio Free Europe. You not seeing this makes me question the intention of your so called "truth-stating".
- sfackler 11y ago> I'm not saying this is wrong, but you should back up such a statement with some real sources. http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/robert-gates-most-countries-conduct-economic-espionage/ http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/robert-gates-most-countries-c... http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/02/espionage-moi/ http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/02/espionage-moi/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikileaks-france-leads-russia-china-in-industrial-spying-in-europe/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikileaks-france-leads-russia-ch...