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The next stage of infantalisation. I never thought it would get this bad!

by shaurz 11y ago

Vaskivo 11y ago
Yeah! Adults should stop doing that childish stuff, like oolouring, watching cartoons, reading fantasy and sci-fi, eating sweets, playing video games and bordgames and roleplaying games, cosplaying, laughing at toilet humour, collecting stamps and postcards and action figures, make funny faces, eat junk food... :) My favourite quote: "To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C. S. Lewis
- jn 11y ago
  > because we're grown-ups now, and it's our turn to decide what that means https://xkcd.com/150/ https://xkcd.com/150/
icebraining 11y ago
Infantilisation is treating someone else as a child, not doing activities traditionally seen as exclusive of children.
- collyw 11y ago
  You could easily argue the people selling these books to adults are doing just that.
brightsize 11y ago
Another part of that trend that I've noticed of late is people calling piss "pee" and shit "poo" or "poop". Just like you did when you were a 2-year-old and Mommy said you had "poo poo diapers" that needed changing.
- deleted 11y ago
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- toxican 11y ago
  "pee" and "poop" are like the base terms for those two things. With "piss" and "shit" being the crude terms, and "poo" or "wee" being the more childish terms. This is the most stupid conversation I've ever had on this website.
  - pluma 11y ago
    Frankly it's more infantile that Americans insist on talking about "restrooms" when it's clear you're not going there to have a lie-down.
    - toxican 11y ago
      I don't think anyone really associate the the "rest" in "restroom" with resting. May as well call it infantile to call it a "bathroom" when only children take baths.
      - lfowles 11y ago
        Right, I resist calling it a bathroom in places where it won't actually have a bath. Guess I should start asking at restaurants where the water closet is?
      - __z 11y ago
        > only children take baths. Huh? I regularly take baths. They are very relaxing and help me de-stress. They are also good for relieving some types of pain.
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norea-armozel 11y ago
Could you illustrate how doodling, coloring, or any other distraction is more childish and less childish? Could you also explain why childishness should be shunned in this context?
anonbanker 11y ago
I'm personally waiting for footie pajamas to be considered office attire. I give it ten more years. either way, I'm saddened that you are downvoted. If you look through the past fifty years of culture, there is a distinct shift from ultra-masculinity and characteristics of maturity being favored to emotions, childlike playing, and feminine attire becming the characteristics that the youth favor in their sexual partners. Do we not want to acknowledge this is happening, or was it merely the "tone" we're supposedly downvoting once again?
- Someone1234 11y ago
  > If you look through the past fifty years of culture, there is a distinct shift from ultra-masculinity and characteristics of maturity being favored to emotions, childlike playing, and feminine attire becming the characteristics that the youth favor in their sexual partners. Do we not want to acknowledge this is happening, or was it merely the "tone" we're supposedly downvoting once again? One little nitpick, you forgot to say why this is "bad." You said it is happening, but considering your tone towards the OP (and the remarks about downvotes) I'm guessing you agree that this is a "bad thing" so, why exactly? Also are you playing the whole "masculinity good," "femininity bad" card? Seems like a rather dated attitude.
  - panzagl 11y ago
    He didn't say it was bad because he wasn't judging- just stating that there is a cultural shift.
  - anonbanker 11y ago
    You would be guessing wrong, should you wish to guess. Unfortunately, this means your entire post is a Strawman Fallacy. But more importantly, are you saying our culture is not shifting towards the directions I mentioned?
    - icebraining 11y ago
      Unfortunately, this means your entire post is a Strawman Fallacy. Fallacies apply to arguments. The parent poster made none.

The next stage of infantalisation. I never thought it would get this bad!

by shaurz 11y ago

The next stage of infantalisation. I never thought it would get this bad!

Yeah! Adults should stop doing that childish stuff, like oolouring, watching cartoons, reading fantasy and sci-fi, eating sweets, playing video games and bordgames and roleplaying games, cosplaying, laughing at toilet humour, collecting stamps and postcards and action figures, make funny faces, eat junk food... :) My favourite quote: "To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C. S. Lewis

jn 11y ago
> because we're grown-ups now, and it's our turn to decide what that means https://xkcd.com/150/ https://xkcd.com/150/

icebraining 11y ago

Infantilisation is treating someone else as a child, not doing activities traditionally seen as exclusive of children.

collyw 11y ago
You could easily argue the people selling these books to adults are doing just that.

brightsize 11y ago

Another part of that trend that I've noticed of late is people calling piss "pee" and shit "poo" or "poop". Just like you did when you were a 2-year-old and Mommy said you had "poo poo diapers" that needed changing.

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toxican 11y ago
"pee" and "poop" are like the base terms for those two things. With "piss" and "shit" being the crude terms, and "poo" or "wee" being the more childish terms. This is the most stupid conversation I've ever had on this website.
- pluma 11y ago
  Frankly it's more infantile that Americans insist on talking about "restrooms" when it's clear you're not going there to have a lie-down.
  - toxican 11y ago
    I don't think anyone really associate the the "rest" in "restroom" with resting. May as well call it infantile to call it a "bathroom" when only children take baths.
    - lfowles 11y ago
      Right, I resist calling it a bathroom in places where it won't actually have a bath. Guess I should start asking at restaurants where the water closet is?
    - __z 11y ago
      > only children take baths. Huh? I regularly take baths. They are very relaxing and help me de-stress. They are also good for relieving some types of pain.
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norea-armozel 11y ago

Could you illustrate how doodling, coloring, or any other distraction is more childish and less childish? Could you also explain why childishness should be shunned in this context?

anonbanker 11y ago

I'm personally waiting for footie pajamas to be considered office attire. I give it ten more years. either way, I'm saddened that you are downvoted. If you look through the past fifty years of culture, there is a distinct shift from ultra-masculinity and characteristics of maturity being favored to emotions, childlike playing, and feminine attire becming the characteristics that the youth favor in their sexual partners. Do we not want to acknowledge this is happening, or was it merely the "tone" we're supposedly downvoting once again?

Someone1234 11y ago
> If you look through the past fifty years of culture, there is a distinct shift from ultra-masculinity and characteristics of maturity being favored to emotions, childlike playing, and feminine attire becming the characteristics that the youth favor in their sexual partners. Do we not want to acknowledge this is happening, or was it merely the "tone" we're supposedly downvoting once again? One little nitpick, you forgot to say why this is "bad." You said it is happening, but considering your tone towards the OP (and the remarks about downvotes) I'm guessing you agree that this is a "bad thing" so, why exactly? Also are you playing the whole "masculinity good," "femininity bad" card? Seems like a rather dated attitude.
- panzagl 11y ago
  He didn't say it was bad because he wasn't judging- just stating that there is a cultural shift.
- anonbanker 11y ago
  You would be guessing wrong, should you wish to guess. Unfortunately, this means your entire post is a Strawman Fallacy. But more importantly, are you saying our culture is not shifting towards the directions I mentioned?
  - icebraining 11y ago
    Unfortunately, this means your entire post is a Strawman Fallacy. Fallacies apply to arguments. The parent poster made none.