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> Is it possible you are thinking superficially and not considering the longer term ramifications of actions? No. > That isn't a definition. That's a sales sp
by dvanduzer 11y ago
> Is it possible you are thinking superficially and not considering the longer term ramifications of actions?
No.
> That isn't a definition. That's a sales speak type platitude. What exactly is "the common good"?
Seems like you're misunderstanding my connection of "common" to "every single human" here. There is no way to meaningfully divide twenty grand amongst eight billion people. When we discuss "human rights" we are usually conflating positive government action and negative government action. Providing a minimum set of non-controversial services from the government (like "food" for example) is never the right answer in these debates.
To wit: If you have $20,000 sitting around, and you don't know what to do with it? Fuck you. As a general analysis of the impact any given $20k has in isolation, this post is interesting.
- jqm 11y ago"> Is it possible you are thinking superficially and not considering the longer term ramifications of actions? No." Manifestly a wrong answer. Examples of correct answers would be "I don't believe so", "I doubt it", "It doesn't appear likely from my perspective". "Impact" and "Fuck You" and "Post is Interesting" aside, I still ask... what comprises the common good? If you really think about this you may find the answer is not as easy or as certain as you appear to believe.
- dvanduzer 11y agoThis is how I know you're sea-lioning me: You don't understand that "common good" is impossible to define. This is one of the most basic discoveries of utilitarian ethical theories. It is sensible to ask what someone means if they use the term "common good" within the context of a proposal, but there is no general meaning of common good. There absolutely can't be.
- jqm 11y ago"You don't understand that "common good" is impossible to define" Maybe I do understand that. I'm not "sea-lioning" you at all. I'm just responding to a derisive and dismissive remark you made to a (IMOP) valid point. I don't necessarily believe in the validity of "discoveries" of utilitarian ethics. But I do believe "good" has, as you say, no general meaning. Which is why it is an interesting question.