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I wrote that ICANN were laissez-fair about enforcement, not that they didn't enforce these rules. The difference is when they enforce them. In the past, they e

I wrote that ICANN were laissez-fair about enforcement, not that they didn't enforce these rules. The difference is when they enforce them. In the past, they encouraged an honour system through the use of WDRP emails. In addition, they only acted or required registrars to act when an issue was reported or noticed. I guess you could call this passive enforcement. Now, what they're requiring is that contact details are validated and verified upon first use and subsequent changes. This would be active enforcement, and was requested by the LEAs. The practical difference that when you register a domain name, the registrar will attempt to make sure that your address is valid, that the email address you provide actually accepts email and you answer it, and check that the phone number you provide is valid. I'm fully aware of the impact of all this. Even if wasn't personally affected by it, given I own domain names, I had to implement this stuff on the technical end, and make sure that in enabling it, we wouldn't end up scheduling thousands of our customers' domains for deletion. From a purely selfish point of view, I'm all too familiar of what the impact of the change from passive to active enforcement means.

AnthonyMouse 11y ago
> In the past, they encouraged an honour system through the use of WDRP emails. In addition, they only acted or required registrars to act when an issue was reported or noticed. I guess you could call this passive enforcement. In practice for anyone who isn't a wrongdoer this is also known as non-enforcement. Nobody would normally notice or care when a website operated by an innocent person has inaccurate whois data or uses a whois privacy service that will actually keep the registrant's personal information private.
- talideon 11y ago
  You're wrong there. I know that, because unlike you, I work for a domain registrar. And let me tell you something. There are actually people there who purposely trawl WHOIS looking for invalid data, just so that they can submit WHOIS inaccuracy reports to ICANN. The ICANN compliance department is far from underworked. You should talk to some of their staff some time.
  - AnthonyMouse 11y ago
    Who are they and why would they do that to innocent people? Perhaps more importantly, how can they even tell when the data is inaccurate? I have a hard time believing that domain contacts are inclined to respond to unsolicited unprovoked third party "offers" to verify their address. Hi, can you let me know that someone is reading this so I can start sending you an unending stream of spam? Meanwhile just because you have a third party whois privacy service doesn't mean they don't faithfully forward your mail.

AnthonyMouse 11y ago

> In the past, they encouraged an honour system through the use of WDRP emails. In addition, they only acted or required registrars to act when an issue was reported or noticed. I guess you could call this passive enforcement. In practice for anyone who isn't a wrongdoer this is also known as non-enforcement. Nobody would normally notice or care when a website operated by an innocent person has inaccurate whois data or uses a whois privacy service that will actually keep the registrant's personal information private.

talideon 11y ago
You're wrong there. I know that, because unlike you, I work for a domain registrar. And let me tell you something. There are actually people there who purposely trawl WHOIS looking for invalid data, just so that they can submit WHOIS inaccuracy reports to ICANN. The ICANN compliance department is far from underworked. You should talk to some of their staff some time.
- AnthonyMouse 11y ago
  Who are they and why would they do that to innocent people? Perhaps more importantly, how can they even tell when the data is inaccurate? I have a hard time believing that domain contacts are inclined to respond to unsolicited unprovoked third party "offers" to verify their address. Hi, can you let me know that someone is reading this so I can start sending you an unending stream of spam? Meanwhile just because you have a third party whois privacy service doesn't mean they don't faithfully forward your mail.