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Why? Nuance is certainly feasible. What happens if you accidentally install NTP publicly, creating a public DDoS reflector? When it gets used, you get emails f
by drostie 11y ago
Why? Nuance is certainly feasible.
What happens if you accidentally install NTP publicly, creating a public DDoS reflector? When it gets used, you get emails from people who are getting DDoSed by your IP, saying "hey, some attacker is using your system to compromise me." Now there are selfish and altruistic motives, both, invoked by that feedback, causing you to ban inbound NTP requests. Even if your server responsiveness doesn't matter much to you, you'd still like to limit legal liability; even if legal liability doesn't matter much to you; you still feel offended that someone else is twisting your systems to nefarious purpose.
So one nuance is that SAV doesn't really offer any feedback for the network operators: nobody from the outside ever complains so nobody from the inside ever hears about the problem. Maybe altruism is only economically viable with a good feedback mechanism.
- azernik 11y agoThe lack of feedback for SAV is a very good point.
- jessaustin 11y agoSomeone like Cloudflare could provide feedback. They could insert a script into their "free" pages that would attempt to send DOS-like traffic to one of their own endpoints. If they come through, then embed a complaint about lack of SAV in the pages sent to that ISP. When enough customers call the ISP bitching that every page they go to complains, the ISP might eventually do something. I'm not sure what CF's motivation for this would be, but I don't really understand their business model anyway, and they do lots of other nice things.