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"Let's bend over backwards for the renewables industry a change " are you fracking kidding me? oil faces taxes in all levels of the chain, from exploration per

by autokad 11y ago

"Let's bend over backwards for the renewables industry a change " are you fracking kidding me? oil faces taxes in all levels of the chain, from exploration permits to the 7/11 at which its sold. we bend over so far backwards for renewables our heads are up our asses. we throw trillions at renewables from tax breaks to low interset loans. i think your bias against fracking and oil is very clear. if the EPA stated fracking was bad, you'd be having a fit saying 'i told you so', but they found that it rarely causes harm, to which you gleefully ignore. edit: i'd like to also clarify that i do not think investing in renewable is wrong, but claiming we aren't is just ignorant of what is actually happening.

modfodder 11y ago
Your own biases are showing. Subsidies for renewables have a long way to go before they are even close to catching up to the amount we've given big oil over the last century. We're still giving billions of dollars in subsidies to hugely profitable oil corporations every year. If we're throwing trillions at renewables (which we haven't), then we must be throwing quadrillions at fossil fuels every year. The oil industry pollutes. The fines and cost of lawsuits are just seen as a cost of doing business, they don't give a shit about the environment they damage. That is not acceptable. As far as my biases, I'd have no problem with fracking if I thought the oil industry even remotely cared about the environment. I have very little problem with oil as energy. It's driven the industrialization of the world. I care less about the pollution that occurred 100 years ago (we were ignorant of its effects) than I do about the continued polluting by an industry that should know better. After 42 years of being around oilmen, I can tell you they do not care about anything but the dollar in their pocket. The EPA report did say fracking was bad, it pointed out specific instances of pollution. The report stated pollution wasn't systemic to the act of fracking, but the pollution was caused by inadequate safety precautions by frackers. The EPA report documented 151 instances of surface spills of fracking chemicals, and numerous instances of contaminated drinking water. All solvable if frackers didn't care about the dollar more than they care about the environment.

by autokad 11y ago

modfodder 11y ago

Your own biases are showing. Subsidies for renewables have a long way to go before they are even close to catching up to the amount we've given big oil over the last century. We're still giving billions of dollars in subsidies to hugely profitable oil corporations every year. If we're throwing trillions at renewables (which we haven't), then we must be throwing quadrillions at fossil fuels every year. The oil industry pollutes. The fines and cost of lawsuits are just seen as a cost of doing business, they don't give a shit about the environment they damage. That is not acceptable. As far as my biases, I'd have no problem with fracking if I thought the oil industry even remotely cared about the environment. I have very little problem with oil as energy. It's driven the industrialization of the world. I care less about the pollution that occurred 100 years ago (we were ignorant of its effects) than I do about the continued polluting by an industry that should know better. After 42 years of being around oilmen, I can tell you they do not care about anything but the dollar in their pocket. The EPA report did say fracking was bad, it pointed out specific instances of pollution. The report stated pollution wasn't systemic to the act of fracking, but the pollution was caused by inadequate safety precautions by frackers. The EPA report documented 151 instances of surface spills of fracking chemicals, and numerous instances of contaminated drinking water. All solvable if frackers didn't care about the dollar more than they care about the environment.