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Consequences would be the solitary part. but "forget to refill their pain med prescription." is something I would consider to be worse than whatever sexual har

by werid 11y ago

Consequences would be the solitary part. but "forget to refill their pain med prescription." is something I would consider to be worse than whatever sexual harassment she received. people in authority executing personal punishments should be thrown in jail themselves.

code_duck 11y ago
Right, a law enforcement officer intentionally causing pain is circumventing and perverting the way the legal system is supposed to work. A prison employee unilaterally pain medication is not different than a police officer punching you.
- sliverstorm 11y ago
  And the hypothetical police officer you are assaulting has no right to punch you?
  - code_duck 11y ago
    Your question includes an implicit assumption that the police officer is punching you in response to an assault on him or her. That's not what I said and changes the comparison. My comparison would be to an unwarranted and unprovoked assault by the officer.
    - sliverstorm 11y ago
      Weren't we talking about a CO's response to assault?
      - code_duck 11y ago
        Sexual harassment, not physical assault. The proper procedural response is discipline such as solitary confinement - choosing to additionally 'forget' pain medicine is a punitive measure that was chosen by the officer without any legal basis. Even if it was in response to a physical assault, it would be improper unless legally established protocol for the prison is to deny medication as a form of discipline, which seems quite unlikely. Denying pain medication is equivalent to inflicting pain on someone - which could easily be called torture. Sure, an officer could punch you if it was necessary to stop you from inflicting harm on one or her or others. Intentionally causing pain by denying medication would be more like punching you after you're already in custody and handcuffs and can't fight back. Clearly that could not be construed to be self defense.

by werid 11y ago

code_duck 11y ago

Right, a law enforcement officer intentionally causing pain is circumventing and perverting the way the legal system is supposed to work. A prison employee unilaterally pain medication is not different than a police officer punching you.

sliverstorm 11y ago
And the hypothetical police officer you are assaulting has no right to punch you?
- code_duck 11y ago
  Your question includes an implicit assumption that the police officer is punching you in response to an assault on him or her. That's not what I said and changes the comparison. My comparison would be to an unwarranted and unprovoked assault by the officer.
  - sliverstorm 11y ago
    Weren't we talking about a CO's response to assault?
    - code_duck 11y ago
      Sexual harassment, not physical assault. The proper procedural response is discipline such as solitary confinement - choosing to additionally 'forget' pain medicine is a punitive measure that was chosen by the officer without any legal basis. Even if it was in response to a physical assault, it would be improper unless legally established protocol for the prison is to deny medication as a form of discipline, which seems quite unlikely. Denying pain medication is equivalent to inflicting pain on someone - which could easily be called torture. Sure, an officer could punch you if it was necessary to stop you from inflicting harm on one or her or others. Intentionally causing pain by denying medication would be more like punching you after you're already in custody and handcuffs and can't fight back. Clearly that could not be construed to be self defense.