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It's not poverty+independence, it's - poverty+bad_government+continued_corruption+leftish_dreaming+failure vs. - poverty+listen_to_advices+reform+better_
by chappi42 11y ago
It's not poverty+independence, it's
- poverty+bad_government+continued_corruption+leftish_dreaming+failure
vs.
- poverty+listen_to_advices+reform+better_life
The 'quite a lot of people' might want to think about their ego and should not confuse it with dignity. It's Greece vs. the whole of EU. And do you really think one is independent if one is broke?
- DominikR 11y agoWow, you simply presume that they (the Greek) are wrong and the West is always right with their good advices and reforms. Just look at what kind of better life the "good advice" and "reforms" of the West has brought the people in Africa, the Middle East and the various western supported military dictatorships around the world. This way of thinking (we are always good and mean good) is the fundamental underlying issue in the conflict between the west and the east that has been raging now for more than a thousand years. Western way of thinking is all about superiority, cruelty and power disguised as good advice because we know best whats good for others.
- cpncrunch 11y agoI don't think that word means what you think it means. Greece is actually the founder of western civilization, so Greece is the "West".
- johnchristopher 11y agoI don't think OP implied Greece was the east in its comparison and description. That way of thinking also applies to west entities: the powerful one is always right.
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- coldtea 11y ago>It's Greece vs. the whole of EU. Nope. It's the European periphery vs Western European powers, especially Germany, who profit from being boss hogs in the E.U. and save their "too big to fail" financial institutions.
- chappi42 11y agoWhy nope? And why especially Germany? It's also Greece vs. (e.g.) Ireland, Spain, Lithuania which are located on the periphery.
- coldtea 11y agoIreland, Spain etc, got the same treatment from E.U. bosses. There has been a solidarity movement for Greece, and anti-EU / austerity protests in both countries actually. E.g. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31072139 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31072139 And it's especially Germany, because Germany is calling the shots in the Eurozone. France plays second fiddle, and Britain is more concerned with its Atlantic allies.