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All of the things I listed are part of the Java language and standard library. http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/reflect/Proxy.html http://doc

by bcg1 11y ago

All of the things I listed are part of the Java language and standard library. http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/reflect/Proxy.html http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/reflect/P... http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/ClassLoader.html http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/ClassLoad... http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/annotation/Annotation.html http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/annotatio... etc

davelnewton 11y ago
I never said it didn't have those things; I'm not sure why you're still talking about them. I said Java has an impoverished model of abstraction, and without external tools (byte-code manipulation, libraries, etc) it still doesn't. Then you brought up not-Java, which I also didn't talk about. You brought those up because those do have better models of abstraction than Java does, which effectively concedes my point.