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It's kinda a permission thing but not really. When I got married it was just like registering a birth. The city clerk took our information down (name, address,

by __z 11y ago

It's kinda a permission thing but not really. When I got married it was just like registering a birth. The city clerk took our information down (name, address, etc.) and had us sign the license under oath that it was accurate. Then the civil officiant just checked our IDs and signed off on the license that we agreed to be married and submitted it the the clerk. We then went back to the clerk to get a copy. The city clerk wouldn't have gave us our license if we showed up without ID or if we were like 12 or something but there really wasn't an "approval" process.

jasonjei 11y ago
My problem is that the application for marriage created the marriage inequality problem in the first place. We should change the institution to recording instead of application. Just because you were issued one doesn't mean that it was automatic until today. When you buy real estate, you simply record it. You don't need governmental approval to buy property as far as I know. You will, though, have to pay property tax.
- __z 11y ago
  It wasn't an application though. There was nothing that said "approve" or "deny" just that we were truthful. Its reasonable for the clerk to make sure that someone else wasn't trying to impersonate me to get married or we weren't children. It wasn't the fact it was an "application" that was the problem - you could just say "previously some states refused to register same sex marriages" instead of "previously some states refused to give marriage licenses to same sex couples" and it means the same thing. The Lovings (of Loving v Virgina) were arrested for getting married in DC.
  - jasonjei 11y ago
    Refusing to register or to give a license is the same as denying an application. I can apply for a liquor license and the state ABC can refuse to give me a liquor license or refuse to register a liquor license and it means the same thing.
- grayclhn 11y ago
  Have you gotten married in the US? I think there's substantially less red tape in practice than you're imagining. People get married on the spot all the time.
  - jasonjei 11y ago
    Yes, I have gotten married in the US. I'm not sure how that is relevant. My problem is the wording--"application" as opposed to "registration." Even if it's as easy as applying for a passport, there is still room for denial.
    - grayclhn 11y ago
      Fair enough; I only asked because in practice it's largely a formality.

by __z 11y ago

jasonjei 11y ago

My problem is that the application for marriage created the marriage inequality problem in the first place. We should change the institution to recording instead of application. Just because you were issued one doesn't mean that it was automatic until today. When you buy real estate, you simply record it. You don't need governmental approval to buy property as far as I know. You will, though, have to pay property tax.

__z 11y ago
It wasn't an application though. There was nothing that said "approve" or "deny" just that we were truthful. Its reasonable for the clerk to make sure that someone else wasn't trying to impersonate me to get married or we weren't children. It wasn't the fact it was an "application" that was the problem - you could just say "previously some states refused to register same sex marriages" instead of "previously some states refused to give marriage licenses to same sex couples" and it means the same thing. The Lovings (of Loving v Virgina) were arrested for getting married in DC.
- jasonjei 11y ago
  Refusing to register or to give a license is the same as denying an application. I can apply for a liquor license and the state ABC can refuse to give me a liquor license or refuse to register a liquor license and it means the same thing.
grayclhn 11y ago
Have you gotten married in the US? I think there's substantially less red tape in practice than you're imagining. People get married on the spot all the time.
- jasonjei 11y ago
  Yes, I have gotten married in the US. I'm not sure how that is relevant. My problem is the wording--"application" as opposed to "registration." Even if it's as easy as applying for a passport, there is still room for denial.
  - grayclhn 11y ago
    Fair enough; I only asked because in practice it's largely a formality.