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It is worth noting that what is commonly thought of as the confederate flag today was actually only adopted as "a battle flag by the Army of Northern Virginia";

by j_s 11y ago

It is worth noting that what is commonly thought of as the confederate flag today was actually only adopted as "a battle flag by the Army of Northern Virginia"; the historically accurate confederate flags are different. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#The_.22Confederate_flag.22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_State... The flag probably would have been relegated to Civil War museums if it had not been resurrected by the resurgent KKK and used by Southern Dixiecrats during the 1948 presidential election.

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aetherson 11y ago
But it's also worth noting that it has successfully become the symbol of the Confederacy in the minds of most modern Americans. If you show a map of the Civil War and designate Confederate units or territories with the first national flag or the Bonnie Blue flag, you'll just confuse the people trying to understand your map. And, if you use the second or third national flags, well, you know? I suspect that Apple wasn't going to let those ones through either. It's not as though they have any distinctive pattern BESIDES the battle flag.
- splawn 11y ago
  hmm.. In my mind it is the symbol of budwieser, cutoffs, rusted pickup trucks, twangy guitar music and rascism. I think I picked up on that growing up before I even knew it had anything to do with the civil war. As far as games go I think simply the use of blue and grey units would suffice for most games. They could use icons of their hats for example. I own several WWII boardgames and none of them feature swastikas and I don't feel confused or cheated by it in the slightest. Just my opinion tho.
  - true_religion 11y ago
    I've seen a lot of WWII games that simply use the Iron Cross of German coat of arms as the symbol of Germany. That said the CSA had a real flag, there's really no reason to continue using the flag of its arguably most famous army to represent the entire thing. I think the people interested in Civil War games, would appreciate the realism in using the actual CSA flag.

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aetherson 11y ago

But it's also worth noting that it has successfully become the symbol of the Confederacy in the minds of most modern Americans. If you show a map of the Civil War and designate Confederate units or territories with the first national flag or the Bonnie Blue flag, you'll just confuse the people trying to understand your map. And, if you use the second or third national flags, well, you know? I suspect that Apple wasn't going to let those ones through either. It's not as though they have any distinctive pattern BESIDES the battle flag.

splawn 11y ago
hmm.. In my mind it is the symbol of budwieser, cutoffs, rusted pickup trucks, twangy guitar music and rascism. I think I picked up on that growing up before I even knew it had anything to do with the civil war. As far as games go I think simply the use of blue and grey units would suffice for most games. They could use icons of their hats for example. I own several WWII boardgames and none of them feature swastikas and I don't feel confused or cheated by it in the slightest. Just my opinion tho.
- true_religion 11y ago
  I've seen a lot of WWII games that simply use the Iron Cross of German coat of arms as the symbol of Germany. That said the CSA had a real flag, there's really no reason to continue using the flag of its arguably most famous army to represent the entire thing. I think the people interested in Civil War games, would appreciate the realism in using the actual CSA flag.