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http://www.gobolinux.org/ http://www.gobolinux.org/ has a fun filesystem layout experiment, at least.

digi_owl 11y ago
Something similar is NixOS (uses systemd) and Guix (uses DMD). Edit: note that Gobolinux came to be without demanding that everything in the Linux ecosystem danced to their pipe.
sjwright 11y ago
That's awesome, way better than the status quo.
nickpsecurity 11y ago
Appreciate the link. They did a clean-slate redesign with better usage and backward compatibility. Excellent work.
- digi_owl 11y ago
  Been using it for a few years (i think the actual install was 013, updated over time to something akin to 014, so i still have /system/Links rather than /System/Index) and i keep being surprised how many tarballs i can basically go "MakeRecipe Foobar x.y.z example.com" on and follow it up with a "Compile Foobar" to get it installed if there is not already a recipe in the repo. Some larger projects are a fair bit more hairy however (Hello Mozilla) and i think people basically gave up getting Gnome to play along... Also the guy that did the 015 release claimed he spent more time getting the whole consolekit+polkit+desktop rigmarole working than getting the kernel and such going.
  - nickpsecurity 11y ago
    I believe it. I've paused with a "wtf" look on my face plenty of times dealing with the complexity and many odd decisions of those. It's what made me briefly use Fluxbox/Openbox distro's just to avoid the complexity. A bit too manual on the app side, though, so I reluctantly went back to a more full desktop environment. I'm sure we'll continue to see more competition in that area and maybe a solid alternative in the future to what we have.
potatosareok 11y ago
This seems like how I read some old unix guide on compiling software. I put it all in ~/local/$software/$version with $software/latest symlink. I really prefer it as I can wipe software just with removing the directory. I hate software like MySQL though which seems to ignore me setting --prefix in configure and still insisting to be default look in random directories. With software with a good makefile and pkgconfig file, I've not had major trouble compiling all the software I use from source.
- digi_owl 11y ago
  Yep. And if you look back you find that GNU have a tool called Stow that do pretty much the same thing to compiled code. Gobolinux started out as a tool for managing user compiled code inside said users home directory. And a variant of that still exist in the form of Rootless, but i can't comment on how well maintained the tool is. BTW the first few releases of Gobolinux used a different distro as a base, and overlaid the Gobo tree on top.

Something similar is NixOS (uses systemd) and Guix (uses DMD). Edit: note that Gobolinux came to be without demanding that everything in the Linux ecosystem danced to their pipe.

sjwright 11y ago

That's awesome, way better than the status quo.

nickpsecurity 11y ago

Appreciate the link. They did a clean-slate redesign with better usage and backward compatibility. Excellent work.

digi_owl 11y ago
Been using it for a few years (i think the actual install was 013, updated over time to something akin to 014, so i still have /system/Links rather than /System/Index) and i keep being surprised how many tarballs i can basically go "MakeRecipe Foobar x.y.z example.com" on and follow it up with a "Compile Foobar" to get it installed if there is not already a recipe in the repo. Some larger projects are a fair bit more hairy however (Hello Mozilla) and i think people basically gave up getting Gnome to play along... Also the guy that did the 015 release claimed he spent more time getting the whole consolekit+polkit+desktop rigmarole working than getting the kernel and such going.
- nickpsecurity 11y ago
  I believe it. I've paused with a "wtf" look on my face plenty of times dealing with the complexity and many odd decisions of those. It's what made me briefly use Fluxbox/Openbox distro's just to avoid the complexity. A bit too manual on the app side, though, so I reluctantly went back to a more full desktop environment. I'm sure we'll continue to see more competition in that area and maybe a solid alternative in the future to what we have.

potatosareok 11y ago

This seems like how I read some old unix guide on compiling software. I put it all in ~/local/$software/$version with $software/latest symlink. I really prefer it as I can wipe software just with removing the directory. I hate software like MySQL though which seems to ignore me setting --prefix in configure and still insisting to be default look in random directories. With software with a good makefile and pkgconfig file, I've not had major trouble compiling all the software I use from source.

digi_owl 11y ago
Yep. And if you look back you find that GNU have a tool called Stow that do pretty much the same thing to compiled code. Gobolinux started out as a tool for managing user compiled code inside said users home directory. And a variant of that still exist in the form of Rootless, but i can't comment on how well maintained the tool is. BTW the first few releases of Gobolinux used a different distro as a base, and overlaid the Gobo tree on top.