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Hollywood makes whatever sells, they don't try to be fair, and right now what sells is diversity. Why do you have to make it a bad thing? When Ryan Reynolds sto

by Joeri 11y ago

Hollywood makes whatever sells, they don't try to be fair, and right now what sells is diversity. Why do you have to make it a bad thing? When Ryan Reynolds stops getting roles because he's a white male, then we'll have a problem. Although, maybe that's a bad example, because I might not really care why they stopped giving him roles, just as long as they did.

hoopd 11y ago
I'm just pointing out what's happening. The bad thing is that we're biasing our culture in a particular direction and pretending that we're not. "Diversity selling" is the product of a massive intentional cultural shift and I'm surprised people get so upset when it's pointed out to them.
- dalke 11y ago
  The problem in my view is that the evidence you have given is weak, and can support many hypotheses. For example, it could be that the change are adjusting to reflect changes in the number of of non-white, non-male, non-straight, and non-disabled people that now do science. You suggest there is "a pattern of attempting to mythologize as many females in STEM fields as possible", but perhaps it's the case that males are already as sufficiently mythologized as is possible, and what you are seeing is the mythologization of women catching up to men. For that matter, you haven't defined what 'mythologized' means, nor how one can tell if someone is 'mythologized' or if a given category of people is under- or over-mythologized. Without these, you have the advantage of controlling the discussion, because you are in charge of the definition. My other commentary is to show that such terms can be defined in ways that others can verify for themselves. Your inability to come up with a meaningful definition, combined with your apparent cherry-picking of the data, likely contributes to the downvotes you've received.
  - hoopd 11y ago
    The quality of my arguments remains fairly constant over time, the reactions to them depend heavily on the politics involved.
  - innguest 11y ago
    All I'm hearing is "I don't want to read about Cultural Marxism because I can't deal with the cognitive dissonance".
innguest 11y ago
There is a double-standard that you are glossing over, perhaps willingly. Jewish influence in the media is overstated by their own admission, and they are notorious for not furthering diversity within their own group. If I am wrong please correct me so I learn, instead of downvoting me to shame me.

by Joeri 11y ago

hoopd 11y ago

I'm just pointing out what's happening. The bad thing is that we're biasing our culture in a particular direction and pretending that we're not. "Diversity selling" is the product of a massive intentional cultural shift and I'm surprised people get so upset when it's pointed out to them.

dalke 11y ago
The problem in my view is that the evidence you have given is weak, and can support many hypotheses. For example, it could be that the change are adjusting to reflect changes in the number of of non-white, non-male, non-straight, and non-disabled people that now do science. You suggest there is "a pattern of attempting to mythologize as many females in STEM fields as possible", but perhaps it's the case that males are already as sufficiently mythologized as is possible, and what you are seeing is the mythologization of women catching up to men. For that matter, you haven't defined what 'mythologized' means, nor how one can tell if someone is 'mythologized' or if a given category of people is under- or over-mythologized. Without these, you have the advantage of controlling the discussion, because you are in charge of the definition. My other commentary is to show that such terms can be defined in ways that others can verify for themselves. Your inability to come up with a meaningful definition, combined with your apparent cherry-picking of the data, likely contributes to the downvotes you've received.
- hoopd 11y ago
  The quality of my arguments remains fairly constant over time, the reactions to them depend heavily on the politics involved.
- innguest 11y ago
  All I'm hearing is "I don't want to read about Cultural Marxism because I can't deal with the cognitive dissonance".

innguest 11y ago

There is a double-standard that you are glossing over, perhaps willingly. Jewish influence in the media is overstated by their own admission, and they are notorious for not furthering diversity within their own group. If I am wrong please correct me so I learn, instead of downvoting me to shame me.