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Eh. Why is 1.0 out already? Keyboard layouts which use AltGr are still broken. E.g. I can't type '@', '\', and 'µ'. Yes, I can't write metadata annotations or

by ahoge 11y ago

Eh. Why is 1.0 out already? Keyboard layouts which use AltGr are still broken. E.g. I can't type '@', '\', and 'µ'. Yes, I can't write metadata annotations or escape some characters.

coldtea 11y ago
>Eh. Why is 1.0 out already? Keyboard layouts which use AltGr are still broken. Perhaps such keyboards don't concern that many people?
- ahoge 11y ago
  AltGr is used by many layouts such as German, Turkish, French, Polish, and US International. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key Also, this was supposed to be fixed in 1.0. I don't know why they decided to release 1.0 prematurely.
  - k__ 11y ago
    Yes, I'm from Germany and had the same problem. LiveScript is a pain with it :\
  - Nadya 11y ago
    Today I learned I can type an acute accent ´ without memorizing the "alt code" by using right alt. Now I can `quote´ in annoying ways or more ‘proper’ ways. This is life changing. It's also nifty to be able to type ¼ and ½
- GolDDranks 11y ago
  That's going to render whole countries worth of developers reconsider using Atom. AltGr is widely used at Nordic countries at least and I wouldn't be surprised if elsewhere too.
  - SamReidHughes 11y ago
    Let them speak English! This'll bring the world closer together.
    - towelguy 11y ago
      We speak English, but our laptops come with localized keyboards.
      - coldtea 11y ago
        Can't you just pick a different layout in the OS -- and that will remap the physical buttons?
        GolDDranks 11y ago
        Of course you can -- but at the same time you ditch tens of years worth of muscle memory and habits. Also the physical buttons don't correspond to the characters anymore, which can be irritating when trying to remember where that one damned seldom-used sigil was again. Also it's a pain in the ass to have to switch constantly between layouts, if you want to write some non-code text in your native language that uses characters that are not present in the US layout. (Btw. for what it's worth, I use customized Dvorak layout that contains all the characters I use when coding, typing English and Finnish. But I'd imagine most of us won't go that far to actually customize their layouts.)
        Direct 11y ago
        I think having to remap your systems keyboard to something other than your native language in order to use an editor is a bit unreasonable. Typing accented characters is far easier in Spanish with a Spanish layout, that we all grow up with. The software shouldn't just ignore half the planet on the basis of "use English".
    - pluma 11y ago
      Switching to an American keyboard layout just so programs work isn't very practical. Especially when you have to switch back to your localized layout for correspondence with your non-English speaking peers and colleagues in between. Personally I even prefer the German layout for programming, though I've met a lot of programmers who prefer the American layout because it requires less chords.
hello_there 11y ago
I'm running Atom 0.116.0 on Xubuntu and AltGr works perfectly fine. My keyboard layout is Norwegian.
- ahoge 11y ago
  Norwegian with Sámi has a lot of collisions. With the regular Norwegian layout, the only collision should be µ (M + AltGr).
- wisew 11y ago
  0.116.0? That's an ancient version (or a typo). You should probably upgrade to 1.0.
Steph0r 11y ago
I agree, that should really be fixed in the core. In the meantime however I recommend using this package https://atom.io/packages/keyboard-localization https://atom.io/packages/keyboard-localization which has worked really well for me (german keyboard).

by ahoge 11y ago

Eh. Why is 1.0 out already? Keyboard layouts which use AltGr are still broken. E.g. I can't type '@', '\', and 'µ'. Yes, I can't write metadata annotations or escape some characters.

coldtea 11y ago

>Eh. Why is 1.0 out already? Keyboard layouts which use AltGr are still broken. Perhaps such keyboards don't concern that many people?

ahoge 11y ago
AltGr is used by many layouts such as German, Turkish, French, Polish, and US International. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key Also, this was supposed to be fixed in 1.0. I don't know why they decided to release 1.0 prematurely.
- k__ 11y ago
  Yes, I'm from Germany and had the same problem. LiveScript is a pain with it :\
- Nadya 11y ago
  Today I learned I can type an acute accent ´ without memorizing the "alt code" by using right alt. Now I can `quote´ in annoying ways or more ‘proper’ ways. This is life changing. It's also nifty to be able to type ¼ and ½
GolDDranks 11y ago
That's going to render whole countries worth of developers reconsider using Atom. AltGr is widely used at Nordic countries at least and I wouldn't be surprised if elsewhere too.
- SamReidHughes 11y ago
  Let them speak English! This'll bring the world closer together.
  - towelguy 11y ago
    We speak English, but our laptops come with localized keyboards.
    - coldtea 11y ago
      Can't you just pick a different layout in the OS -- and that will remap the physical buttons?
      - GolDDranks 11y ago
        Of course you can -- but at the same time you ditch tens of years worth of muscle memory and habits. Also the physical buttons don't correspond to the characters anymore, which can be irritating when trying to remember where that one damned seldom-used sigil was again. Also it's a pain in the ass to have to switch constantly between layouts, if you want to write some non-code text in your native language that uses characters that are not present in the US layout. (Btw. for what it's worth, I use customized Dvorak layout that contains all the characters I use when coding, typing English and Finnish. But I'd imagine most of us won't go that far to actually customize their layouts.)
      - Direct 11y ago
        I think having to remap your systems keyboard to something other than your native language in order to use an editor is a bit unreasonable. Typing accented characters is far easier in Spanish with a Spanish layout, that we all grow up with. The software shouldn't just ignore half the planet on the basis of "use English".
  - pluma 11y ago
    Switching to an American keyboard layout just so programs work isn't very practical. Especially when you have to switch back to your localized layout for correspondence with your non-English speaking peers and colleagues in between. Personally I even prefer the German layout for programming, though I've met a lot of programmers who prefer the American layout because it requires less chords.

hello_there 11y ago

I'm running Atom 0.116.0 on Xubuntu and AltGr works perfectly fine. My keyboard layout is Norwegian.

ahoge 11y ago
Norwegian with Sámi has a lot of collisions. With the regular Norwegian layout, the only collision should be µ (M + AltGr).
wisew 11y ago
0.116.0? That's an ancient version (or a typo). You should probably upgrade to 1.0.

Steph0r 11y ago

I agree, that should really be fixed in the core. In the meantime however I recommend using this package https://atom.io/packages/keyboard-localization https://atom.io/packages/keyboard-localization which has worked really well for me (german keyboard).