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Java doesn't only work on Linux, it works on windows too. That's the great thing about it.

• slantyyz 11y ago
  To a point. Headless stuff tends to work way better than the GUI stuff. It's kind of the same tune with mobile software -- "Native feels and runs better than everything else". In the case of enterprise software GUIs, it's particularly true.
  • jsight 11y ago
    Of course, but we are talking about server side software here.
    • slantyyz 11y ago
      A lot of server side enterprise software have GUI admins and management tools.
• jsight 11y ago
  Here is Spolsky on Java: "In particular, we didn't want to have to tell them to get a Java Virtual Machine up and running, because that's not easy, and they're not really a hundred percent compatible." https://stackoverflow.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W56 https://stackoverflow.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W56
  • t0mas88 11y ago
    He seems like an OK guy, but comments like that make me think he made a decision first and then made up reasons later. How hard can it be to make a simple installer that checks and installs Java, many applications do that.
    • slantyyz 11y ago
      >> How hard can it be to make a simple installer that checks and installs Java, many applications do that. You'd be surprised how many applications don't do that too. There's a reason why a lot of people say "enterprise software sucks" -- it's usually because the software makers value new features over improving how things work.
    • jsight 11y ago
      It is more difficult than it looks, but then again support multiple Linux distributions with a simple Apache installer is more difficult than it looks as well. I suspect that this is a function of overestimating the effort on the Java side and underestimating both the demand and the work on the non-Windows side. They used to be an extremely Windows-centric company.