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You, like many others, still don't get the point. The point is that just because 97% of professionals believe something is true, does not make it so.

alphapapa 11y ago
Well, it's much worse than that. It is not true that 97% of scientists agree with AGW theory. That claim is a lie, based on the paper by Cook, et al. That paper was a premeditated fraud. But people are still perpetrating the lie about consensus. The media loudly announced the claim, but the media has ignored the uncovering of the conspiracy. Of course, anyone can google it, if they want to... On top of that, the IPCC has openly encouraged scientists to deceive the public. See, e.g. http://judithcurry.com/2011/07/21/stephen-schneider-and-the-%E2%80%9Cdouble-ethical-bind%E2%80%9D-of-climate-change-communication/ http://judithcurry.com/2011/07/21/stephen-schneider-and-the-... So, you have 1) the consensus claim shown to be a lie, and 2) the IPCC shown to be telling scientists to deceive the public. Either of those facts alone should sink the AGW movement. But it's hard to get the truth out to people who don't care enough to look it up themselves, because the media is invested into the false narrative.
DanBC 11y ago
You claim to be interested in the science, yet you reject what the overwhelming majority of scientists have to say, and only quote people who have no experience or expertise in the topic area and who produce very many innaccurate statements, which all get rapidly debunked. But because you reject science you ignore the debunking. https://youtube.com/watch?v=GlcuV_Dojwg https://youtube.com/watch?v=GlcuV_Dojwg Did you read the IPCC report linked above yet?
- alphapapa 11y ago
  Dan, you seem like a decent guy. Please read this and tell me what you think: http://judithcurry.com/2011/07/21/stephen-schneider-and-the-%E2%80%9Cdouble-ethical-bind%E2%80%9D-of-climate-change-communication/ http://judithcurry.com/2011/07/21/stephen-schneider-and-the-... How can you trust anything the IPCC or its associated scientists have to say when they have openly advocated deceiving the public?

alphapapa 11y ago

Well, it's much worse than that. It is not true that 97% of scientists agree with AGW theory. That claim is a lie, based on the paper by Cook, et al. That paper was a premeditated fraud. But people are still perpetrating the lie about consensus. The media loudly announced the claim, but the media has ignored the uncovering of the conspiracy. Of course, anyone can google it, if they want to... On top of that, the IPCC has openly encouraged scientists to deceive the public. See, e.g. http://judithcurry.com/2011/07/21/stephen-schneider-and-the-%E2%80%9Cdouble-ethical-bind%E2%80%9D-of-climate-change-communication/ http://judithcurry.com/2011/07/21/stephen-schneider-and-the-... So, you have 1) the consensus claim shown to be a lie, and 2) the IPCC shown to be telling scientists to deceive the public. Either of those facts alone should sink the AGW movement. But it's hard to get the truth out to people who don't care enough to look it up themselves, because the media is invested into the false narrative.

DanBC 11y ago

You claim to be interested in the science, yet you reject what the overwhelming majority of scientists have to say, and only quote people who have no experience or expertise in the topic area and who produce very many innaccurate statements, which all get rapidly debunked. But because you reject science you ignore the debunking. https://youtube.com/watch?v=GlcuV_Dojwg https://youtube.com/watch?v=GlcuV_Dojwg Did you read the IPCC report linked above yet?

alphapapa 11y ago
Dan, you seem like a decent guy. Please read this and tell me what you think: http://judithcurry.com/2011/07/21/stephen-schneider-and-the-%E2%80%9Cdouble-ethical-bind%E2%80%9D-of-climate-change-communication/ http://judithcurry.com/2011/07/21/stephen-schneider-and-the-... How can you trust anything the IPCC or its associated scientists have to say when they have openly advocated deceiving the public?