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I'm glad things ended well for you, but please realize that you were freed thanks to luck and not because you were actually innocent. Don't ever talk to police

I'm glad things ended well for you, but please realize that you were freed thanks to luck and not because you were actually innocent. Don't ever talk to police. DON'T EVER TALK TO POLICE. Call a lawyer and allow him to explain the mistake. There's just as much chance that the police could have used your explanation against you if they thought you were lying and you would be in jail right now, wrongfully convicted because you misremembered a small detail in your story. DON'T EVER TALK TO POLICE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE BEEN EXPLICITLY CHARGED WITH A CRIME.

tim333 11y ago
I think you may be thinking of the US? In the UK it's pretty rare to prosecute the innocent. If anything things are a bit lenient with a quite a few criminals getting off free.
- pdeuchler 11y ago
  I don't think human nature changes drastically between politically defined boundaries. Besides, a simple google search shows roughly the same proportion of innocents convicted per trial.
  - anigbrowl 11y ago
    Bear in mind that those statistics are enormously skewed by plea bargaining, for both good and bad reasons. Good plea bargaining is where the evidence is extremely strong and the defendant has little criminal history, so admitting guilt and serving a minimal sentence is in everyone's interest. The bad kind is where prosecutors have a weak case but bring so many charges that defendant is facing a horrendously long time in prison, and pleads guilty to a crime that wasn't committed rather than take the risk of extended incarceration.
  - tim333 11y ago
    Human nature's probably much the same but the systems and their incentives seem pretty different.
- deleted 11y ago
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- bediger4000 11y ago
  As Thomas Jefferson once wrote, "Better a hundred guilty men go free, than one innocent man is prosecuted without due process of law." Oh, wait....
- twic 11y ago
  > In the UK it's pretty rare to prosecute the innocent. Really? When i did jury duty, probably about a third of the charges i heard were pretty obviously groundless.
dang 11y ago
"Please don't use uppercase for emphasis. If you want to emphasize a word or phrase, put asterisks around it and it will get italicized." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- JoeAltmaier 11y ago
  Thanks! I'm guilty as charged. Will reform.
  - switch007 11y ago
    I think that was a justified breaking of the rules.
    - krapp 11y ago
      Commenting with emphasis in all caps is the textual equivalent of grabbing someone by the collar and screaming in their face. Everyone who does so feels it's justified, but the effect is always obnoxious and it never conveys more information or meaning, only an insistence that the commenter is especially important and needs to be paid attention to.
      - switch007 11y ago
        Very common way people try and "win" on the Internet is by arguing a point not made by the parent. It wasn't all in upper case; your comment is invalid.
        krapp 11y ago
        It's been considered rude since the days of Usenet and probably before, and whether or not the comment was entirely in all caps is irrelevant.
- ran290 11y ago
  Hi dang, this is unrelated (feel free to remove this reply) but it seems that my post at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9774037 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9774037 has disapeared? Could you look into it?
lifeformed 11y ago
Honest question: is everyone supposed to have a lawyer on standby? Who exactly am I supposed to call if I need one in this kind of emergency situation? Do I just look in a phone book for "lawyers"?
- dredmorbius 11y ago
  That, or calling your local bar association's referral line. Some cities and courts have low cost legal assistance either through government agencies or via nonprofits. Better yet, spend 30 minutes on that exercise now, rather than when you're stuck in the situation for real.
bsder 11y ago
How can you say this, and not include a link to the video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc This video explains perfectly why even if you are innocent, you should not talk to the police. Might want to edit your post.

tim333 11y ago

I think you may be thinking of the US? In the UK it's pretty rare to prosecute the innocent. If anything things are a bit lenient with a quite a few criminals getting off free.

pdeuchler 11y ago
I don't think human nature changes drastically between politically defined boundaries. Besides, a simple google search shows roughly the same proportion of innocents convicted per trial.
- anigbrowl 11y ago
  Bear in mind that those statistics are enormously skewed by plea bargaining, for both good and bad reasons. Good plea bargaining is where the evidence is extremely strong and the defendant has little criminal history, so admitting guilt and serving a minimal sentence is in everyone's interest. The bad kind is where prosecutors have a weak case but bring so many charges that defendant is facing a horrendously long time in prison, and pleads guilty to a crime that wasn't committed rather than take the risk of extended incarceration.
- tim333 11y ago
  Human nature's probably much the same but the systems and their incentives seem pretty different.
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bediger4000 11y ago
As Thomas Jefferson once wrote, "Better a hundred guilty men go free, than one innocent man is prosecuted without due process of law." Oh, wait....
twic 11y ago
> In the UK it's pretty rare to prosecute the innocent. Really? When i did jury duty, probably about a third of the charges i heard were pretty obviously groundless.

dang 11y ago

"Please don't use uppercase for emphasis. If you want to emphasize a word or phrase, put asterisks around it and it will get italicized." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

JoeAltmaier 11y ago
Thanks! I'm guilty as charged. Will reform.
- switch007 11y ago
  I think that was a justified breaking of the rules.
  - krapp 11y ago
    Commenting with emphasis in all caps is the textual equivalent of grabbing someone by the collar and screaming in their face. Everyone who does so feels it's justified, but the effect is always obnoxious and it never conveys more information or meaning, only an insistence that the commenter is especially important and needs to be paid attention to.
    - switch007 11y ago
      Very common way people try and "win" on the Internet is by arguing a point not made by the parent. It wasn't all in upper case; your comment is invalid.
      - krapp 11y ago
        It's been considered rude since the days of Usenet and probably before, and whether or not the comment was entirely in all caps is irrelevant.
ran290 11y ago
Hi dang, this is unrelated (feel free to remove this reply) but it seems that my post at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9774037 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9774037 has disapeared? Could you look into it?

lifeformed 11y ago

Honest question: is everyone supposed to have a lawyer on standby? Who exactly am I supposed to call if I need one in this kind of emergency situation? Do I just look in a phone book for "lawyers"?

dredmorbius 11y ago
That, or calling your local bar association's referral line. Some cities and courts have low cost legal assistance either through government agencies or via nonprofits. Better yet, spend 30 minutes on that exercise now, rather than when you're stuck in the situation for real.

bsder 11y ago

How can you say this, and not include a link to the video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc This video explains perfectly why even if you are innocent, you should not talk to the police. Might want to edit your post.