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You don't need to trust the mirror: http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=apt-secure&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=e

by yrro 11y ago

You don't need to trust the mirror: http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=apt-secure&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=apt-secure&...

DannyBee 11y ago
This still buys you nothing, unless you have a good reason to trust everyone who has signed all of this? In the end, they are people, you have no reason to trust them more than anyone else. In particular, you have no reason to trust them more or less than a billion dollar corporation.
- nindalf 11y ago
  For some of us, the contributors of Debian are more trustworthy than corporations. We know to a degree of certainty that the maintainers have no interest in turning a profit of us, their user and will not do anything that would harm us. I trust the corporation to not do anything that would harm the corporation. Usually the interests of corporations and users align, so you can't be sure with them. You can be with the maintainers of Debian.
  - DannyBee 11y ago
    "We know to a degree of certainty that the maintainers have no interest in turning a profit of us, their user and will not do anything that would harm us" Why do you believe this? How do you know they aren't on various forums selling ways to exploit users by inserting bugs, or whatever? Most open source developers do not in fact, make a lot of money from their programs alone. What stops them from being just as greedy as corporations? Note also this already happens, where open source maintainers sell access to their installers or whatever to malware companies. Why would one believe it won't happen to debian maintainers? Also, i'll also point out a lot of them are employed by corporations you distrust so much, and history shows most people will do what they are told, so if their corporations told them to do something, they'd probably do it. So again, i don't get it. There seems to be no actual reason to trust them more or less. I just see misplaced trust in "the good of people". (Which study after study after study has shown, often goes out the window for very low prices :P)

by yrro 11y ago

DannyBee 11y ago

This still buys you nothing, unless you have a good reason to trust everyone who has signed all of this? In the end, they are people, you have no reason to trust them more than anyone else. In particular, you have no reason to trust them more or less than a billion dollar corporation.

nindalf 11y ago
For some of us, the contributors of Debian are more trustworthy than corporations. We know to a degree of certainty that the maintainers have no interest in turning a profit of us, their user and will not do anything that would harm us. I trust the corporation to not do anything that would harm the corporation. Usually the interests of corporations and users align, so you can't be sure with them. You can be with the maintainers of Debian.
- DannyBee 11y ago
  "We know to a degree of certainty that the maintainers have no interest in turning a profit of us, their user and will not do anything that would harm us" Why do you believe this? How do you know they aren't on various forums selling ways to exploit users by inserting bugs, or whatever? Most open source developers do not in fact, make a lot of money from their programs alone. What stops them from being just as greedy as corporations? Note also this already happens, where open source maintainers sell access to their installers or whatever to malware companies. Why would one believe it won't happen to debian maintainers? Also, i'll also point out a lot of them are employed by corporations you distrust so much, and history shows most people will do what they are told, so if their corporations told them to do something, they'd probably do it. So again, i don't get it. There seems to be no actual reason to trust them more or less. I just see misplaced trust in "the good of people". (Which study after study after study has shown, often goes out the window for very low prices :P)