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Link to the framework page [0]. I couldn't find any demos there or in other pages, though. I couldn't figure out how to run the examples [1] and there's no live

Link to the framework page [0]. I couldn't find any demos there or in other pages, though. I couldn't figure out how to run the examples [1] and there's no live links of em either. This is not specifically directed at Famous... Why don't you [framework creators] show off REAL freaking apps? Show me a reasonably sized application that handles sophisticated user interactions. How do you handle routing? Data fetching / caching? Production builds? Testing environment? Dealing with your everyday CRUD? It's alright if your framework is meant as a framework that only handles some specific things, show a real-world example of the framework to highlight how it makes things easier/better/simpler/faster. I don't want to see TodoMVC or single-file examples. I know it's absolutely NOT sexy, but it's most of what I'll be having to deal with in my day-to-day work as a developer. (The only frontend framework that I know of that does a tremendous job at this is ember. I don't use ember, but I have nothing but the utmost respect for its developers.) Specifically to famous: You touch on the topic of building large applications with Famous in this link. Your lack of reference applications (although not necessarily unreasonable, as you just announced the alpha) does nothing to gain my trust as a developer. I'd love to see a non-trivial example application that shows the full picture of what an app would look like. [0] http://famous.org/framework/ http://famous.org/framework/ [1] https://github.com/Famous/framework/tree/develop/lib/core-components https://github.com/Famous/framework/tree/develop/lib/core-co...

tracker1 11y ago
Thank you... even in TFA, the handlers all seem to be synchronously bound... how do you tie these into async communication channels? It really bugs me in this day and age, that frameworks are build without async client-server being a first-class behavior at least by example. While I really appreciate the various demos for say TodoMVC, which allow some framework comparison.... what I would love to see (from TodoMVC or similar) would be an abstracted interface that is expressly async (even if only using setTimeout) via callbacks or promises for the data access. It's part of the story that is very important. Also, a very simple router... perhaps requiring a hello/login/register screen (user:user) and the todo screen. I know TodoMVC was supposed to be just trivial enough to show something between the various frameworks... that said, I think we really need just a hair more.
mozumder 11y ago
It appears to be a web-based GUI toolkit. Something to replace JQuery-UI or Polymer, both of which are minimal. The web needs something like Apple's Cocoa or Cocoa touch - a very rich GUI toolkit. It looks like this takes some inspiration from that, as some of the names are same. I don't know if it has an solver-based auto layout engine, though. Anyways, I've been wanting something like this for a while now, as no company has really stepped up to the plate with a real GUI toolkit.
ExpiredLink 11y ago
> I couldn't find any demos there or in other pages, though. I couldn't figure out how to run the examples [1] and there's no live links of em either. This framework isn't gonna be ... famous.

tracker1 11y ago

Thank you... even in TFA, the handlers all seem to be synchronously bound... how do you tie these into async communication channels? It really bugs me in this day and age, that frameworks are build without async client-server being a first-class behavior at least by example. While I really appreciate the various demos for say TodoMVC, which allow some framework comparison.... what I would love to see (from TodoMVC or similar) would be an abstracted interface that is expressly async (even if only using setTimeout) via callbacks or promises for the data access. It's part of the story that is very important. Also, a very simple router... perhaps requiring a hello/login/register screen (user:user) and the todo screen. I know TodoMVC was supposed to be just trivial enough to show something between the various frameworks... that said, I think we really need just a hair more.

mozumder 11y ago

It appears to be a web-based GUI toolkit. Something to replace JQuery-UI or Polymer, both of which are minimal. The web needs something like Apple's Cocoa or Cocoa touch - a very rich GUI toolkit. It looks like this takes some inspiration from that, as some of the names are same. I don't know if it has an solver-based auto layout engine, though. Anyways, I've been wanting something like this for a while now, as no company has really stepped up to the plate with a real GUI toolkit.

ExpiredLink 11y ago

> I couldn't find any demos there or in other pages, though. I couldn't figure out how to run the examples [1] and there's no live links of em either. This framework isn't gonna be ... famous.