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I wouldn't be too eager to draw a definitive conclusion from N=2.

by rosser 11y ago

abandonliberty 11y ago
Wasn't even single blind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment I'm sure we could at the very least get a strong placebo response with the right participant.
- kennywinker 11y ago
  How on earth would you do a blind test of something so perceptible to the senses? You can hear the beating.
  - msane 11y ago
    A blind test simply means that the subject doesnt know what the test is really measuring or whether they received placebo or not. A placebo could be static noise or other audio.
  - __z 11y ago
    Test condition - Binaural beats Controls - Meditating in silence Relaxing music Random beats
WalterSear 11y ago
It's 2 more than any published study I can find investigating the effects of binaural beats. And I'm pretty certain this is why: http://www.psychfiledrawer.org/TheFiledrawerProblem.php http://www.psychfiledrawer.org/TheFiledrawerProblem.php
- herriojr 11y ago
  My wife actually did a study of this a long time ago for her Master's degree after having dealt with EEG Biofeedback training under supervision of an MD for years. She had a bunch more participants. In short, Binaural Beats don't work. edit: I'll see if I can get a link to her paper
- chillingeffect 11y ago
  One of the original versions of Adobe Audition, Cool Edit Pro, came with instructions and code to generate binaural beats. I experimented with it a bit. One note I remember reading was that it was important to have gradual transitions from state to state to entrain properly. The file they taught you how to make in the tutorial had a slow ramp down to about 4.5 - 5.5 Hertz (about 5 mins?), then hung out there for 15-20 minutes. Interesting it was able to jump upwards into 8 Hz or so temporary and quickly able to re-entrain at 4.5 Hz if the excursions were brief. Quartz glyph vex'd cwm finks. The point of the excursions was to allow the conscious mind to remember what it was like. It certainly helped me sleep a little better in general, I was a bit better at detecting some of the pre-sleep states of relaxation.
  - MrBra 11y ago
    +1 for mentioning that specific feature in Cool Edit Pro.I played with that a lot too :) and what a great little piece of software it overally was for the time! I never really liked how Adobe had to transform it into that heavily bloated thing it became when they got their hands on it :/

I wouldn't be too eager to draw a definitive conclusion from N=2.

by rosser 11y ago

I wouldn't be too eager to draw a definitive conclusion from N=2.

Wasn't even single blind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment I'm sure we could at the very least get a strong placebo response with the right participant.

kennywinker 11y ago
How on earth would you do a blind test of something so perceptible to the senses? You can hear the beating.
- msane 11y ago
  A blind test simply means that the subject doesnt know what the test is really measuring or whether they received placebo or not. A placebo could be static noise or other audio.
- __z 11y ago
  Test condition - Binaural beats Controls - Meditating in silence Relaxing music Random beats

WalterSear 11y ago

It's 2 more than any published study I can find investigating the effects of binaural beats. And I'm pretty certain this is why: http://www.psychfiledrawer.org/TheFiledrawerProblem.php http://www.psychfiledrawer.org/TheFiledrawerProblem.php

herriojr 11y ago
My wife actually did a study of this a long time ago for her Master's degree after having dealt with EEG Biofeedback training under supervision of an MD for years. She had a bunch more participants. In short, Binaural Beats don't work. edit: I'll see if I can get a link to her paper
chillingeffect 11y ago
One of the original versions of Adobe Audition, Cool Edit Pro, came with instructions and code to generate binaural beats. I experimented with it a bit. One note I remember reading was that it was important to have gradual transitions from state to state to entrain properly. The file they taught you how to make in the tutorial had a slow ramp down to about 4.5 - 5.5 Hertz (about 5 mins?), then hung out there for 15-20 minutes. Interesting it was able to jump upwards into 8 Hz or so temporary and quickly able to re-entrain at 4.5 Hz if the excursions were brief. Quartz glyph vex'd cwm finks. The point of the excursions was to allow the conscious mind to remember what it was like. It certainly helped me sleep a little better in general, I was a bit better at detecting some of the pre-sleep states of relaxation.
- MrBra 11y ago
  +1 for mentioning that specific feature in Cool Edit Pro.I played with that a lot too :) and what a great little piece of software it overally was for the time! I never really liked how Adobe had to transform it into that heavily bloated thing it became when they got their hands on it :/