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TL;DR: No, they do not.

leeoniya 11y ago
also follows from [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines
- yathern 11y ago
  I think that 'law' is better applied when the headline is trying to catch attention by making an aggressive claim, but wants to not be straight up lying. Here it's genuinely taking a skeptical point of view on binaural beats. For example 'Could this new device give you thirty more years of life?' (no) versus 'Does Elon Musk have intentions of leaving Tesla soon?' (no) (or yes, I don't really know)
  - abandonliberty 11y ago
    Yes, that is valid. Yathern's corollary?
  - leeoniya 11y ago
    yeah i guess that's true
zamalek 11y ago
So the next question is: how would you do this (e.g. electrodes)? Following that, considering that we now don't actually know what entrainment does (by virtue of never achieving it), what would be the result of brain wave entrainment?
yaw 11y ago
"we've done this experiment on two subjects"
- chillingeffect 11y ago
  "Warning: Here Be Amateurs We aim for high-quality science, but we're not EEG experts or professional researchers. There may be bugs in our code, glitches in our mathematics, shorts in our circuits, or flies in our ointments."
rosser 11y ago
I wouldn't be too eager to draw a definitive conclusion from N=2.
- abandonliberty 11y ago
  Wasn't even single blind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment I'm sure we could at the very least get a strong placebo response with the right participant.
  - kennywinker 11y ago
    How on earth would you do a blind test of something so perceptible to the senses? You can hear the beating.
    - msane 11y ago
      A blind test simply means that the subject doesnt know what the test is really measuring or whether they received placebo or not. A placebo could be static noise or other audio.
    - __z 11y ago
      Test condition - Binaural beats Controls - Meditating in silence Relaxing music Random beats
- WalterSear 11y ago
  It's 2 more than any published study I can find investigating the effects of binaural beats. And I'm pretty certain this is why: http://www.psychfiledrawer.org/TheFiledrawerProblem.php http://www.psychfiledrawer.org/TheFiledrawerProblem.php
  - herriojr 11y ago
    My wife actually did a study of this a long time ago for her Master's degree after having dealt with EEG Biofeedback training under supervision of an MD for years. She had a bunch more participants. In short, Binaural Beats don't work. edit: I'll see if I can get a link to her paper

also follows from [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines

yathern 11y ago
I think that 'law' is better applied when the headline is trying to catch attention by making an aggressive claim, but wants to not be straight up lying. Here it's genuinely taking a skeptical point of view on binaural beats. For example 'Could this new device give you thirty more years of life?' (no) versus 'Does Elon Musk have intentions of leaving Tesla soon?' (no) (or yes, I don't really know)
- abandonliberty 11y ago
  Yes, that is valid. Yathern's corollary?
- leeoniya 11y ago
  yeah i guess that's true

zamalek 11y ago

So the next question is: how would you do this (e.g. electrodes)? Following that, considering that we now don't actually know what entrainment does (by virtue of never achieving it), what would be the result of brain wave entrainment?

yaw 11y ago

"we've done this experiment on two subjects"

chillingeffect 11y ago
"Warning: Here Be Amateurs We aim for high-quality science, but we're not EEG experts or professional researchers. There may be bugs in our code, glitches in our mathematics, shorts in our circuits, or flies in our ointments."

rosser 11y ago

I wouldn't be too eager to draw a definitive conclusion from N=2.

abandonliberty 11y ago
Wasn't even single blind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment I'm sure we could at the very least get a strong placebo response with the right participant.
- kennywinker 11y ago
  How on earth would you do a blind test of something so perceptible to the senses? You can hear the beating.
  - msane 11y ago
    A blind test simply means that the subject doesnt know what the test is really measuring or whether they received placebo or not. A placebo could be static noise or other audio.
  - __z 11y ago
    Test condition - Binaural beats Controls - Meditating in silence Relaxing music Random beats
WalterSear 11y ago
It's 2 more than any published study I can find investigating the effects of binaural beats. And I'm pretty certain this is why: http://www.psychfiledrawer.org/TheFiledrawerProblem.php http://www.psychfiledrawer.org/TheFiledrawerProblem.php
- herriojr 11y ago
  My wife actually did a study of this a long time ago for her Master's degree after having dealt with EEG Biofeedback training under supervision of an MD for years. She had a bunch more participants. In short, Binaural Beats don't work. edit: I'll see if I can get a link to her paper