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Well, in my country multi party systems basically work like this: Unresolved issue comes up, party forms specializing in said issue, if party gets support big

by MrDosu 11y ago

Well, in my country multi party systems basically work like this: Unresolved issue comes up, party forms specializing in said issue, if party gets support big parties integrate unresolved issue, issue is now resolved. And you got it completely around! In america your mom gets the government she is been told to want. That is why you have a two party system. Barrier to entry is "spent multi hundred millions on media control, if that's not possible you wont get votes, ever" and that's well backed by facts.

rayiner 11y ago
My mom didn't grow up here, and she doesn't speak English as a first language so she barely consumes U.S. media. The idea that her viewpoints are the result of media indoctrination is ridiculous. The area that the media hammers hardest (foreign policy) is the one area where she disagrees with the government, and she opposes things the media is broadly in favor of (gay marriage, decriminalized marijuana).
- happyscrappy 11y ago
  It is easier to pretend people were tricked by marketing than accept the fact that the majority disagree with you.
  - MrDosu 11y ago
    To pretend you are not a product of your environment is just silly. I know that basically all my thought process is crafted by the countries i grew up in. Travel the world a bit, you'll get it eventually.
    - happyscrappy 11y ago
      You have no free will? Only what your country taught you? Speak for yourself because you are not arguing that the majority is not in agreement you are just saying "you are a stupid American" which is one of the few acceptable slurs.
      - MrDosu 11y ago
        Putting words in my mouth... Ofc there is free will, but if you think media manipulation means you are forced in front of a television you are just a blabbering idiot.
    - rayiner 11y ago
      You're changing the goal posts. Of course your views are shaped by the country you grew up in. That's not the same as saying they're manipulated from up high by the media. My mom grew up in Bangladesh. Even when I, much less she, was a kid, we had one TV station that was off the air half the day. Nobody was spending billions to influence her opinions. Saying her voting patterns here in the U.S. are the product of media manipulation is frankly offensive as it denies her agency and free will. The motivating philosophies behind American voting patterns are present all over the world: distrust of individualism, strong reliance on government to organize social affairs, condemnation of speech that tends to upset the social order, etc. Whether you're talking about a New England farming town or a Bangladeshi village, these viewpoints are recurring. There is a good reason why: they are beneficial in a society with limited resources that must work closely together to survive.
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  - paulhauggis 11y ago
    It's all about perspective. If you personally lean to the left, you won't see the left-leanings of CNN/MSNBC/most media. If you lean to the right, you will (and won't see Fox news as being as biased as it is).

by MrDosu 11y ago

rayiner 11y ago

My mom didn't grow up here, and she doesn't speak English as a first language so she barely consumes U.S. media. The idea that her viewpoints are the result of media indoctrination is ridiculous. The area that the media hammers hardest (foreign policy) is the one area where she disagrees with the government, and she opposes things the media is broadly in favor of (gay marriage, decriminalized marijuana).

happyscrappy 11y ago
It is easier to pretend people were tricked by marketing than accept the fact that the majority disagree with you.
- MrDosu 11y ago
  To pretend you are not a product of your environment is just silly. I know that basically all my thought process is crafted by the countries i grew up in. Travel the world a bit, you'll get it eventually.
  - happyscrappy 11y ago
    You have no free will? Only what your country taught you? Speak for yourself because you are not arguing that the majority is not in agreement you are just saying "you are a stupid American" which is one of the few acceptable slurs.
    - MrDosu 11y ago
      Putting words in my mouth... Ofc there is free will, but if you think media manipulation means you are forced in front of a television you are just a blabbering idiot.
  - rayiner 11y ago
    You're changing the goal posts. Of course your views are shaped by the country you grew up in. That's not the same as saying they're manipulated from up high by the media. My mom grew up in Bangladesh. Even when I, much less she, was a kid, we had one TV station that was off the air half the day. Nobody was spending billions to influence her opinions. Saying her voting patterns here in the U.S. are the product of media manipulation is frankly offensive as it denies her agency and free will. The motivating philosophies behind American voting patterns are present all over the world: distrust of individualism, strong reliance on government to organize social affairs, condemnation of speech that tends to upset the social order, etc. Whether you're talking about a New England farming town or a Bangladeshi village, these viewpoints are recurring. There is a good reason why: they are beneficial in a society with limited resources that must work closely together to survive.
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- paulhauggis 11y ago
  It's all about perspective. If you personally lean to the left, you won't see the left-leanings of CNN/MSNBC/most media. If you lean to the right, you will (and won't see Fox news as being as biased as it is).