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It does read like an ode before a coronation. Though a poorly written one. Anything but Clinton/Bush. Sanders perhaps.

by gerty 11y ago

briandear 11y ago
Sanders? An admitted Socialist? How about Rand Paul? Someone that has actually fought on the right side of issues important to the HN community. Sanders actually supports an 80% tax rate. If you want an economy that resembles Romania in the 1980s, vote for Sanders. If you want freedom, vote Rand Paul. Democrat values are inconsistent with entrepreneurial. They want to disincentivize success with higher taxes and they want to subsidize failure through increased government handouts. If you want less of something tax it. If you want more of something, subsidize it. under Obama, food stamps have quadrupled. Black unemployment is higher than it was under Bush and wage growth is non existent. Look at economic charts from 2002-2014 make note of what party was in control of Congress and thus the budget. Look at Clinton's economic performance during the 1990; correlate that to the party controlling Congress. It's fascinating. Research Cheis Dodd's role in Congredd during 2006-2008. See what Bush was warning about in terms of the housing market and what the Democrat response was when Bush warned about Fannie/Freddie instability. He was essentially laughed at by Chris Dodd and friends. This instinctive anti-Reublicann sentiment is depressing because it seems like the Democrat marketing machine has done a good job obfuscating the issues. Whenever someone gets close to real scrutiny of the issues, they conveniently pull 'racism' or 'war on women' out of a hat. Meanwhile, I bet a majority of Americans can tell you the name of the Charleston shooter but have no idea what percentage they paid in Federal income tax or payroll taxes last year. Rand Paul released his tax proposal and more people seem to be concerned about a stupid flag. These supposedly 'big' news stories aren't that important. They're distractions. Who gives a flying -- what race that white NAACP lady was? Who cares what comic book the Charleston shooter read when he was 15? Distractions. Give them bread and circuses..
- zxcvcxz 11y ago
  >This instinctive anti-Reublicann sentiment is depressing Most people on HN are probably too young to remember a republican president before GW Bush.
  - clarky07 11y ago
    Is that true? Is the HN demographic really that young. No wonder it seems like everyone here is more liberal than average.
- veidr 11y ago
  Socialism doesn't mean what you think it means.
- oaktowner 11y ago
  The highest tax rate in the US as recently as 1978 was 70% [1], and had been as 91% (!) from the forties through the sixties. So I don't know why you assume that a high tax rate on the very wealthiest leads to Romania, 1980. America's incredible post-war boom and burgeoning strong middle-class all happened at a time when the very wealthiest had very high tax rates. [1] http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/fed_individual_rate_history_nominal.pdf http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/...
- thomnottom 11y ago
  Personally the deaths of multiple people at the hands of a domestic terrorist and the racist societies that support him matter more to me than how much I pay in taxes.
- deleted 11y ago
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- Avshalom 11y ago
  >This instinctive anti-Reublicann sentiment is depressing because it seems like the Democrat marketing machine has done a good job obfuscating the issues. Actually it was the Republican marketing machine's "southern strategy" that started that. When you decide to explicitly become the-party-that-appeals-to-racists it takes a really really long time to dig yourself out of that hole. Especially because right now is when the people that grew up with those messages are in/coming-to power. They also co-opt the previously fairly moderate evangelical crowd with red-scare tactics around the same time.
  - jklinger410 11y ago
    >Actually it was the Republican marketing machine's "southern strategy" that started that. Or Reaganomics, or the wars they got us into, their rabid support for the military and uber-rich in our country, the list goes on.
- jklinger410 11y ago
  Congratulations, you've turned this thread into a shit-show.
- jsight 11y ago
  I agree with some of your points, but in some ways I think you are overly optimistic. I bet that the majority of the people not in Charleston couldn't name the Charleston shooter either (not that his name is particularly important). Your point about them not knowing tax rates is absolutely accurate, though.

It does read like an ode before a coronation. Though a poorly written one. Anything but Clinton/Bush. Sanders perhaps.

by gerty 11y ago

It does read like an ode before a coronation. Though a poorly written one. Anything but Clinton/Bush. Sanders perhaps.

Sanders? An admitted Socialist? How about Rand Paul? Someone that has actually fought on the right side of issues important to the HN community. Sanders actually supports an 80% tax rate. If you want an economy that resembles Romania in the 1980s, vote for Sanders. If you want freedom, vote Rand Paul. Democrat values are inconsistent with entrepreneurial. They want to disincentivize success with higher taxes and they want to subsidize failure through increased government handouts. If you want less of something tax it. If you want more of something, subsidize it. under Obama, food stamps have quadrupled. Black unemployment is higher than it was under Bush and wage growth is non existent. Look at economic charts from 2002-2014 make note of what party was in control of Congress and thus the budget. Look at Clinton's economic performance during the 1990; correlate that to the party controlling Congress. It's fascinating. Research Cheis Dodd's role in Congredd during 2006-2008. See what Bush was warning about in terms of the housing market and what the Democrat response was when Bush warned about Fannie/Freddie instability. He was essentially laughed at by Chris Dodd and friends. This instinctive anti-Reublicann sentiment is depressing because it seems like the Democrat marketing machine has done a good job obfuscating the issues. Whenever someone gets close to real scrutiny of the issues, they conveniently pull 'racism' or 'war on women' out of a hat. Meanwhile, I bet a majority of Americans can tell you the name of the Charleston shooter but have no idea what percentage they paid in Federal income tax or payroll taxes last year. Rand Paul released his tax proposal and more people seem to be concerned about a stupid flag. These supposedly 'big' news stories aren't that important. They're distractions. Who gives a flying -- what race that white NAACP lady was? Who cares what comic book the Charleston shooter read when he was 15? Distractions. Give them bread and circuses..

zxcvcxz 11y ago
>This instinctive anti-Reublicann sentiment is depressing Most people on HN are probably too young to remember a republican president before GW Bush.
- clarky07 11y ago
  Is that true? Is the HN demographic really that young. No wonder it seems like everyone here is more liberal than average.
veidr 11y ago
Socialism doesn't mean what you think it means.
oaktowner 11y ago
The highest tax rate in the US as recently as 1978 was 70% [1], and had been as 91% (!) from the forties through the sixties. So I don't know why you assume that a high tax rate on the very wealthiest leads to Romania, 1980. America's incredible post-war boom and burgeoning strong middle-class all happened at a time when the very wealthiest had very high tax rates. [1] http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/fed_individual_rate_history_nominal.pdf http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/...
thomnottom 11y ago
Personally the deaths of multiple people at the hands of a domestic terrorist and the racist societies that support him matter more to me than how much I pay in taxes.
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Avshalom 11y ago
>This instinctive anti-Reublicann sentiment is depressing because it seems like the Democrat marketing machine has done a good job obfuscating the issues. Actually it was the Republican marketing machine's "southern strategy" that started that. When you decide to explicitly become the-party-that-appeals-to-racists it takes a really really long time to dig yourself out of that hole. Especially because right now is when the people that grew up with those messages are in/coming-to power. They also co-opt the previously fairly moderate evangelical crowd with red-scare tactics around the same time.
- jklinger410 11y ago
  >Actually it was the Republican marketing machine's "southern strategy" that started that. Or Reaganomics, or the wars they got us into, their rabid support for the military and uber-rich in our country, the list goes on.
jklinger410 11y ago
Congratulations, you've turned this thread into a shit-show.
jsight 11y ago
I agree with some of your points, but in some ways I think you are overly optimistic. I bet that the majority of the people not in Charleston couldn't name the Charleston shooter either (not that his name is particularly important). Your point about them not knowing tax rates is absolutely accurate, though.